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Re: Your favourite Nokia Phones Community moment

Hi @HMDLaura! Congratulations!

My favorite moments in order should be as below. I'm listing down 5 because 1 is just not enough for the time I've spent at the forum 🤗

The trip to Dubai - My awesome, unexpected & unforgettable moment ever is the surprise trip to Dubai and being present at the Nokia 8.1's launch event and also the chance to meet and interact with some other fans from India and other countries.
The AMA(s) - I love interacting and learning more about the people, their thinking, vision, their plans etc and it has been amazing every time we got some answers to user-generated questions. Thank you Miss Admin for hosting the AMAs and for being a bridge between the users and the people who work on the products. Exactly the kind of discussions that excite me the most!
SuperUser! - Being a fan of discussions, I hate spam. I am glad to be a part of the SuperUser group who help in removing spam and organizing general threads.
When @juho was here - Hah! That was a special moment too when Juho Sarvikas used his community account and posted the 2 threads. I wish he visited the community again, maybe that wouldn't mark his existence here a memorable moment :P

Favorite peeps you ask? I have loved interacting with everybody who came here and discussed problems, solutions or just ranted in general. I'll list down some extraordinary faves, since I can't list down everybody.

@madbilly - Our encyclopedia, this calm guy is known to uncover some of the bizarre things really very well. He spends special time writing down and balancing his words - a skill which I'll never manage to acquire. He's probably still the one with highest number of total discussions on the forum :) It is an amazing time at the community when this guy is active here (find some time for us again sir).
@HMDLaura - Not trying to butter, this lady is somehow still getting the forum to work! She understands, talks, gets the message across to the web developers and is the go to source for global news at the community apart from handling the forum backend. Since most employee accounts at community are no longer used by the owners, she's one sweet gem whom I hope we won't lose. Thank you, madam :-)
@dipankar paul Oho, another spot for an employee here! Mr. Paul is serious about his job of bringing engagement to the community (and probably ORM too?). He's our our source for the India specific updates and the contests with decent gifts 🎁! I wish the contests go global and we get even more quizzes (Yes, I envy all those who take great photos but maybe can't beat me when it comes to detailed knowledge about Nokia xD), competitions and updates from him. He's also our stage to get the user feedback over to the management (Nokia hoodies where, sir? 😝). Thank you for doing what you do, Sir. Looking forward to more! :-)
@Kartik Gada - This buddy became a good friend eventually to a point that I can trust him with precious things as well and somebody whom I'm definitely meeting whenever I visit Mumbai. He's a sincere Nokia fan and with interest in photography. Must accept that I have learned some camera tricks from him 🤗 even though photography to me is nothing beyond framing and pressing the shutter
@nokianchetan - He's the most famous Nokia photographer you'd see on social media. He's always seen with some unique and breathtaking shots whenever there's a photography thread 🙈 Keep up the great work, buddy!
All the buddies and bois who have made the discussions fun and interactive: @iamkrishna08, @nikhilkunwar0904, @user123, @Lior Levi, @Bharath KB, @nitinkachare, @DibyaXP, @user123, @Lazysince1995 (sup boi?), @Jocke.Sve, @NIMISHA and the various others whom I failed to recall while writing this. Thank you everybody for being here and engaging :D

What do I like the most?! Obviously the fact that there's still free speech here. Whether the products are good or bad, I'm glad that the community has allowed the users to pen their words without any kind of censoring (exceptions of inappropriate content or language). It is probably not good for the ORM, but the ideal way to balance the negativity is to pour more positivity instead of deleting the negatives. Hail you, honest and understanding community team! I wouldn't have been active here if there were mods deleting threads just because they discussed how a product does not work well. I've seen other good communities where negatives are often censored to showcase a good environment.

Changes... changes I wanna see? Let's list a few!

More employee activity: Will remain my #1 always. I know the community is considered as more of a peer to peer platform instead of a direct support point. But there should still be more employees parking few minutes of their time here to help the users. A sweet example is (was) about the missing October and November update on Nokia 8.1 in India. If there was anybody from Software Updates team, he would have told the users why the issue is happening and when will it get a fix. Some things are too widespread that the standard chat support or Nokia care levels will never fetch any results unless somebody from a dedicated team takes a look. We used to have them several years ago at Nokia Support Discussions under Nokia Oyj.
A better mobile app!: A web wrapper is not the ideal setup for an app for the mobile-first and digital world that we are seeing. There's a need for a dedicated app which relies on APIs and renders perfectly on smartphones in a simple, clean and user friendly way. The mobile website is usable, yes, but not with a great experience. A dedicated app will also be able to deliver push notifications for comment replies, tags, quotes etc.
Bug reporting section: I've always wished we had this. There's no clear way for any user to report a bug/issue and include the steps to reproduce and/or include bug reports. If the technical team doesn't have the details, then how will it even work on fixing the bugs? A submission via the customer support desk is possible, but not feasible since even it adds an unneeded level to the process and can't collect the logs as well. Ofcourse this also needs a bug hunting team which could evaluate the logs and have the developers do something :D
Return of beta labs, dev previews & private feedback: The only way to build reliable products is to test more. And the golden steps to delivering a stable software is to do more beta tests with different use cases and app combinations. The test devices which are deployed within the company are often reset to the same default setup which means app compatibility and bugs will never be properly tested. Having a pool of willing users who help with the testing will help improve the overall software quality by a good degree. Of course if the issues highlighted are addressed. We used to have such sections and a enrollment process in the former days and everything got shattered in 2019. I hope it is resurrected.

That's all from me for now. I have more to say, probably next time. I hope we see more improvements before we hit the next anniversary.

singhnsk

Re: Why so many ads when I turn off data saver

There are no ads on my phone. You must have some app installed causing this, or some third party launcher.

Konradowski

New Nokia phone codenames

Hi all,

As some of you may know, phone manufacturers like to give their phones codenames whilst they're developing them, to try to keep it confidential what the final product name will be. HMD and FIH are similar, they have given their models different codenames. These codenames often then get used in the developer community to make it clear which model they are working on (since some manufacturers use the same model name for many different actual models, e.g. Moto G.). HMD, for now, keeps it's model names clear (ish) so, each model name refers to a different model (they also have model numbers for each variant of a model, but these are generally very close so developers can ignore the differences).

Here are the codenames that I think HMD currently uses - the ones that I know at least. I don't know any for the feature phones. I've noticed a bit of a pattern, the codenames follow an alphabetical order, so the flagship is A, with the next top model being B, C, D, etc. I'm not sure this patter is exact, there appear to be some oddities, and the newer models use a totally different approach which I've not worked out the pattern for yet.

Nokia 1 - FRT
Nokia 2 - E1M
Nokia 2.1 - E2M
Nokia 3 - NE1
Nokia 3.1 - ES2 (ES2N?)
Nokia 5 - ND1
Nokia 5.1 - CO2
Nokia 5.1 Plus / Nokia X5 - PDA
Nokia 6 - D1C / PLE
Nokia 6.1 - PL2
Nokia 6.1 Plus /
Nokia X6 - DRG
Nokia 7 - C1N
Nokia 7.1 - ROO?
Nokia 7 Plus - B2N
Nokia 7.1 plus - PNX?
Nokia 8 - NB1
Nokia 8 Sirocco - A1N
Nokia 9 - AOP?

Have I got anything wrong? Do you see some other patterns? Any new codenames to share?

Cheers

madbilly

Re: [Moved] Nokia 8.3 vs OnePlus Nord which one is best

Both phones have their upsides and downsides. The Nord shouldn't be directly compared to the 8.3 just because the CPU is identical.

You'll see better cameras, better build quality, better materials, better battery and a higher price for the Nokia 8.3.

So, the Nokia 8.3 is better on a specs view. The price is one differentiator and the Nokia 8.3 isn't available anywhere yet. There are also no reviews to know how it actually performs and how it feels.

singhnsk

Re: NOKIA-HMD Global Shipments Declined

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/164137#Comment_164137

You said it, what I was thinking for so long now, I cannot think of using any other brand otherwise I would have ditched Nokia Android phones after their first gen phones.

There is absolutely nothing which differentiates Nokia from other brands so it's high time they think over this ASAP.

I want to see my favorite brand to be in the market longer.

Lawss

Re: NOKIA-HMD Global Shipments Declined

Hi @jeffianfm,

Good post, good list of observations.

I think you're probably right, people don't generally realise Nokia still exists. I remember seeing a Nokia 8 advert in 2017 but nothing memorable since then (except what I've sought myself).
You're right that retailers don't put Nokia phones in the most prime positions from what I've seen, but that is more down to HMD not paying the retailers for those prime slots rather than the retailer deciding.
I'm not sure that specs are an issue outside of the enthusiast/prosumer category.
I agree there is a severe shortage of Nokia branded accessories in many places, but do people really make their decision to buy a €00s item based on the availability of €0s accessories?
Same as point above.

I think HMD need to differentiate more and I definitely don't agree with them that beige Android is a differentiator, a USP, but they seem to think it is.

We have to wait and see what happens with Huawei - if their sales outside of China start to improve then we may see HMD do something different, moving away from Android One, otherwise the future is beige. 😐

Cheers 🙂

madbilly

Re: NOKIA-HMD Global Shipments Declined

Well, to me, there is a need of both software innovation and good pricing. The Nokia 5.3 might be a good product if they price it well

I don't think there's a good future with Android One as HMD is investing 0% into developing an ecosystem. Stock Android is okay, but there need to be things to make people choose "Nokia" over others. Today, there's essentially nothing.

singhnsk