mrbelter said:

It seems like HMD have prioritised features such as adaptive battery (which will not significantly improve your battery life) Digital Wellbeing (Which you will ignore once the novelty wears off) and adaptive brightness which is like my árse over glaring bugs that absolutely needed fixing first.

Adaptive brightness is just a gimmick for my 6. The screen constantly changing the brightness, so often that it drains the battery very fast. It already happen with 8.1 Oreo and it's even worse with Pie. When the phone got updated to Pie, I immediately turn off those nonsense, yet the battery still drains quickly. Now the dolby atmos also doing weirdly.

I never expect the support chat or care center to provide the best solution. Clearly they have no idea what problems that their customers facing right now. The forum doesn't seem to give much help too. I often look at the community to see if there are any solution to overcome the problem currently I have with the 6, only to witness a full page of "where's my (mention an android name) update" or whatsoever nonsense topics, that frequently appears on first page. Why need to be hurry if what you get is a half-baked instead?

mrbelter said:

What is the point of having this forum, which admittedly is a user based forum but does have HMD appointed moderators?

It is obvious that the forum need a proper control, moderation to make the community a proper place to search for solution (i.e. merging same topic into one, deleting nonsense topics, keeping the discussion/question on topic, etc.). Having moderators from one side is no good at all. Perhaps voluntarily moderator is needed here.

Just pathetic.

mrbelter said:

I have been accused more than once on here of sucking up to HMD, working for them, being an apologist and generally not having a bad word said about them while trying to just maintain a level of rationality and common sense regarding issues with the Nokia 8.

This Android 9 mess however is absolute búm soup, what was the point of the beta and all the feedback given? What is the point of having a Twitter account if you are only going to acknowledge the good stuff and absolutely ignore the criticism (when it is genuine) and bug reports? What is the point of having this forum, which admittedly is a user based forum but does have HMD appointed moderators?

It seems like HMD have prioritised features such as adaptive battery (which will not significantly improve your battery life) Digital Wellbeing (Which you will ignore once the novelty wears off) and adaptive brightness which is like my árse over glaring bugs that absolutely needed fixing first.

I bet HMD wish they had never made the Nokia 8, it appears to have been nothing but a constant problem for them.

Clearly true, even I complained you for being favour for HMD 3/4months back if you remember, but today you got to know there real strategy , they are just fooling us by giving fake statements, no one gives proper information waste of forum waste of online help services, if this is there strategy once again Nokia is going to shut there company shortly, very shortly

Ognjen Šešlija said:

mrbelter said:

I have been accused more than once on here of sucking up to HMD, working for them, being an apologist and generally not having a bad word said about them while trying to just maintain a level of rationality and common sense regarding issues with the Nokia 8.

This Android 9 mess however is absolute búm soup, what was the point of the beta and all the feedback given? What is the point of having a Twitter account if you are only going to acknowledge the good stuff and absolutely ignore the criticism (when it is genuine) and bug reports? What is the point of having this forum, which admittedly is a user based forum but does have HMD appointed moderators?

It seems like HMD have prioritised features such as adaptive battery (which will not significantly improve your battery life) Digital Wellbeing (Which you will ignore once the novelty wears off) and adaptive brightness which is like my árse over glaring bugs that absolutely needed fixing first.

I bet HMD wish they had never made the Nokia 8, it appears to have been nothing but a constant problem for them.

Nice of you to say this. I don't agree in just one thing - Nokia 8 is or was a great product. Oreo fw had bugs (not big ones IMO, aside from camera issues) and overall I was very happy with it, more so than any Android phone. I spoke to all my friends and colleagues highly of it, recommended it fully.
Now, that being said, Pie fw and HMD's behaviour about it is really something for devoted customer to go ballistic. As I said in my posts, there's nothing more annoying having a great productive being demoted to a poc. If my phone was bad from day one, I would have tossed it long time ago.
I still haven't received new Pie, but everybody is talking that all major bugs are not fixed at all.
Looks to me that Google made a problematic Android in the first place, but that's not really my problem. 
I totally agree about your remarks about new features, they're needed as a hole in a head.
HMD should work out a fw, with Oreo-like stability and put all this mess to bed. If not, please give us an official downgrade path/solution. Everything else is demagoguery.

Over the last 2 months the Nokia 8 has become a bit of a dog to own and it is clear HMD have not addressed a single problem that people have reported and somehow the camera app is still absolutely rubbish.

mrbelter said:

I have been accused more than once on here of sucking up to HMD, working for them, being an apologist and generally not having a bad word said about them while trying to just maintain a level of rationality and common sense regarding issues with the Nokia 8.

This Android 9 mess however is absolute búm soup, what was the point of the beta and all the feedback given? What is the point of having a Twitter account if you are only going to acknowledge the good stuff and absolutely ignore the criticism (when it is genuine) and bug reports? What is the point of having this forum, which admittedly is a user based forum but does have HMD appointed moderators?

It seems like HMD have prioritised features such as adaptive battery (which will not significantly improve your battery life) Digital Wellbeing (Which you will ignore once the novelty wears off) and adaptive brightness which is like my árse over glaring bugs that absolutely needed fixing first.

I bet HMD wish they had never made the Nokia 8, it appears to have been nothing but a constant problem for them.

Nice of you to say this. I don't agree in just one thing - Nokia 8 is or was a great product. Oreo fw had bugs (not big ones IMO, aside from camera issues) and overall I was very happy with it, more so than any Android phone. I spoke to all my friends and colleagues highly of it, recommended it fully.
Now, that being said, Pie fw and HMD's behaviour about it is really something for devoted customer to go ballistic. As I said in my posts, there's nothing more annoying having a great product being demoted to a poc. If my phone was bad from day one, I would have tossed it long time ago.
I still haven't received new Pie, but everybody is talking that all major bugs are not fixed at all.
Looks to me that Google made a problematic Android in the first place, but that's not really my problem. 
I totally agree about your remarks about new features, they're needed as a hole in a head.
HMD should work out a fw, with Oreo-like stability and put all this mess to bed. If not, please give us an official downgrade path/solution. Everything else is demagoguery.

And again,  compass wasn't fixed
HMD prefer fixing useless functions for infants whom like charts like wellbeing showing, but not critical functions.