OIS on the camera, does it have it or not?

This might look like an ilogical question but the reality is...nowhere does it say if the "Nokia 8 Sirocco" has OIS on the camera or not.

OIS on the camera, does it have it or not?

dbs dbs
 /  edited November 12

This might look like an ilogical question but the reality is...nowhere does it say if the "Nokia 8 Sirocco" has OIS on the camera or not.


We assume it does because it has a huge camera hump and the "Nokia 8" has it as well. And if this is a "Nokia 8 Sirocco" it can't possibly have a worse camera. But...if it doesn't have OIS...then I'm afraid it IS a worse camera.


Please tell me you didn't make the serious SERIOUS mistake of not adding OIS to the camera of the Nokia 8 Sirocco...

Comments

  • Sach Sach
    ✭✭  /  edited April 9
    According to few news pages and youtubers . There's no optical image stabilization (OIS) in Nokia 8 sirocco. Even I'm wondering. The premium phone with everything done well, how can they miss OIS ??!!!
  • dbs dbs
     /  edited April 9

    Yeah, meanwhile it has been confirmed that the phone does NOT have OIS.


    Or microSD expansion.


    Or a headphone jack.


    This phone is a complete fail, just like the Nokia 8 before it. Looks are irrelevant when you're missing the core features of a true flagship (which is what this phone is priced at). I've since lost any interest on the 8 Sirocco or ANY other HMD smartphone for that matter. After two years I think it has become clear that they are NOT capable of producing a real flagship worthy of the Nokia branding.


    I would just wish Nokia would revoke their license and give it to someone else.

  • Nokia n9 Nokia n9
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    Dual: 12 MP (f/1.75, 1.4 µm, OIS) + 12 MP (f/2.6, 1.0 µm), dual pixel phase detection autofocus, 2x optical zoom, Carl Zeiss optics, dual-LED dual-tone flash
  • dbs dbs
     /  edited April 9

    Incorrect.


    As per the official specs on Nokia's own webpage (https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/nokia-8-sirocco?#full-specifications):


    12 MP Wide (2L7, 1.4um, 2PD, f/1.7, FOV 78.2") + 13 MP Tele (3M3, 1.0um, f/2.6, FOV47.3"), dual-tone flash


    So yeah, NO OIS.

  • mobilecr mobilecr
    ✭✭✭  / 

    I had the same question and I went ahead to contact nokia mobile support, they could not answer that question via facebook messenger, via chat within the care support in nokia 8 2017, nor via chat on this website. They said they would be contacting me via email but never got any answer from them. According to the website nokiamob.net whose team had the chance to speak with hmd chief marketing office Pekka Rantala it is confirmed nokia  8 sirocco DOES NOT have OIS, as per HMD said that is because the kind of customer nokia 8 siroccos is aimed for would be more willing to buy that device based on the look and feel, luxury experience rather than high end specs in the camera deparment.

  • boogieman boogieman
     / 

    Buiseness men that travel the world only need one sim? Hmmm...doubt that

  • Sach Sach
    ✭✭  / 
    According to some techie it has one primary sensor with OIS.
  • usernew54 usernew54
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    Guys i have confirmed with Nokia Mobile Support via email. As their chat can't respond me with those questions. So i have sent them a mail and following is there response


    In response to your query regarding Nokia 7 Plus and Nokia 8 Sirocco, we would like to inform you that camera specs of Nokia 7 Plus and Nokia 8 Sirocco  


    1. Nokia 7 Plus do not support OIS.

    2. Nokia 8 Sirocco support OIS.

    Mean while also confirmed with them Nokia 8 Sirocco supports EIS too for video stabilization with Qualcomm EIS.
    So as said i think since they are using two cams one support OIS and other EIS to have EIS and OIS Both.
    But then i think they should create a dual sim variant as it is having only Single Sim.

  • dbs dbs
     / 

    That directly contradicts what the HMD team at MWC and the teams that have been presenting the phones around the world have said.


    All of them - just like the official website - say it does NOT have OIS.


    So I guess we'll have to wait for the phone to come out for it to be teared down and that doubt be put to rest.

    At any rate, in Portugal HMD is asking 869€ for the phone. That's the price of an S9.

    Needless to say, NO ONE will buy it at that price with such bad software and so many essential features missing anyway. 749€ in Germany is already too much for such a bad phone.

  • boogieman boogieman
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    I am amazed how BAD Nokia is at listing features of their phones. Looking on the spec sheet of the old Nokia 8 a lot was missing like USB OTG.

    On Sirocco it's even worse. It does indeed have OIS if this review from Forbes is to be trusted (with a prerelease unit from HMD). Differenece sirocco vs 8 below

    https://blogs-images.forbes.com/ewanspence/files/2018/03/nokia8Sv8_lowlight_001.jpg?width=960

    With such amazing improvement in low light increased aperture can't make up for loss of OIS and tjey say its there.
    But we all know that a lot of the caveats with the Nokia 8 was in the software as pixels camera app showed amazing images with the Nokia 8 (so optics are capable on the 8, but SW engineers for camera app not so much in the first release (big mistake if you ask me)...but the pro app is coming for the 8 too, so will be VERY interesting to see a shootout there when both have their latest app)

    So for sirocco if they nail camera app, have ois on main at least and a good EIS on both + increased aperture the low light should improve. But daylight should suffer from the bigger aperture.

    Full forbes pre-review
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2018/03/06/hmdglobal-nokia8sirocco-review-camera-duallens-bothie/#29dbc3467963
  • dbs dbs
     / 

    Except this review from GSMarena - a FAR more reliable source when it comes to mobile than Forbes - specifically says it does NOT have OIS.


    https://www.gsmarena.com/here_are_the_nokia_8_sirocco_camera_samples-news-29831.php


    Which is confirmed by specialised tech bloggers who attended MWC and asked HMD directly:


    http://nokiamob.net/2018/02/26/nokiamobs-agents-played-with-newly-announced-nokia-8110-1-6-7-plus-and-8-sirocco/


    https://nokiapoweruser.com/ois-nokia-7-plus-8-sirroco-android-one-pro-camera-faqs-answered/


    So yeah. The 8 Sirocco definitely does NOT have OIS. As for the rest, I will reserve judgement on the quality to my own testing of the phone when its available. But unless HMD completely re-wrote the software, I expect all major problems to still be present namely the lack of ability to properly handle different exposures in a photo, the uselessness of HDR mode and the inability of the phone to keep focus locked wherever you told it to.

    The Pro camera will likely help tone down these issues but with the 7 Plus and 8 Sirocco lacking OIS, I'm pretty sure that will mean low light photos will be a complete and utter disaster, with you being forced to use a tripod and manual controls every time you want to take a photo in those conditions and not end up with a dud.

  • Although the phone is good but it doesn't have OIS, You question is not illogical. It makes sense

  • У nokia 8 siricco есть ois !!!!!!!! На основном модуле !!!!!
  • mobilecr mobilecr
    ✭✭✭  /  edited November 12

    website Nokiamob says it does not have OIS and they were with HMD team in an interview and launch event in europe months ago, Nokiamob guys talked with HMD people and asked them whether nokia 8 sirocco had OIS, then HMD said it does not have OIS but at least has EIS from Qualcomm....EIS is a software solution when OIS cannot be used, still OIS is superior than EIS

  •  The first (main) lens is a 12 megapixel sensor with a f/1.75 aperture
    lens and equipped with OIS. The second rear lens is also 12 megapixels
    but with an f/2.6 aperture. This combination offers 2x optical zoom, and
    that makes a big difference to certain types of shot. The Sirocco also
    copes much better with low-light conditions.

    It has laser autofocus too.

    Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2018/03/06/hmdglobal-nokia8sirocco-review-camera-duallens-bothie/#548d337a7963

  • dbs dbs
     / 

    That Forbes information is wrong.

    It has already been confirmed that the 8 Sirocco does not that OIS. And as such, it performs terribly like all other HMD phones to date.

  • The onliest smartphone with "OIS-camera" is the "old" Nokia 8 from 2017. My favourit.
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