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  • petrus petrus
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    No, you can't use both cameras, because it detect that this is new version amd update the old one. But you can unistal the update if you want.
    Go here and download it:
    https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/hmd-global/nokia-camera-new/

    There are 3 bugs, but there is a solution for 2 of them. 
    1. In standard photo mode if you want to use flash always and set it "ON", the camera will never make a photo. If you want to force the use of flash you have to go in manual mode.
    In standard photo mode it has to be on Auto.

    2. When it is very dark around you and you go to make a video the display becomes almost black you can't see anything. You have to go to the last taken photo and in 1-2 seconds to return and it works. Next to the shutter button is a circle of the last taken, just click on it and in few seconds return to camera. This is only needed when it's very dark around you. 

    3. The last found from me bug bug is that you can't make a selfie with the front camera with flash. It always has to be set to off.
    I have already installed a new HMD camera application.
    Two more thing I noticed that the PRO mode does not work by pulling the shutter and Live Broadcast is missing.
  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    No Pro Mode, because you have manual mode. About live broadcast I don't care. Never used.
    Take a look about the information in Play store. Both options you mentioned are supposed to be there, but why they are missing I don't know.
    Just test the camera and share please what you think.
  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    One photo with the new HMD camera, just added from Google Photos a bit of POP.
  • Dheeraj Dheeraj
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    marsic said:
    I hope your excitement about that "new" camera won't give HMD sadistic ideas to simply slap that particular app on us and call it a fulfilled promise. I expect an app specifically written for Nokia 8 camera hardware, to make full use of its entire set of capabilities (dual sensor, dual tone flash, optical stabilization, etc)
    Agreed but you can use this port till they come out with the new camera. Its very good i tried it too.
  • marsic marsic
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    Did any of you have trouble installing that camera app? Or trouble using it?

    Also if i understood correctly, it will actually overwrite the current stock camera app? I'm wondering whether i could revert it to the current stock app if it will misbehave. I'll try to look for the link to the app and try it, the current app is a POS anyway.

    Edit:
    So, I've installed that thing, seems promising, but crashes when i try to use some of those "stickers" or whatever they are. Anyway, I'll get back after proper testing.
  • martin.fd martin.fd
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    I think, in case it doesn't work you can "deactivate" the new one and it will be replaced with the standard app ...
  • marsic marsic
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    Yes, I've noticed that i have the "disable" option instead of uninstall. No major problems so far, but only played with it for a few seconds. I'll dig into it later. The first thing that i noticed is that there's no optical stabilization
  • martin.fd martin.fd
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    I am currently (besides the standard Cam) using this one: https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/gcamera/GCam_6.1.021_N7P_test2.1.apk and it works quite well on my Nokia 8 
  • martin.fd martin.fd
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    marsic said:
    The first thing that i noticed is that there's no optical stabilization
    How do you see this?
  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    Yes, this is actually installed as a update to the stock camera. You can install it and will return to the stock camera. 

    Just remember, when you want to use flash always and turn it ON, you have to go to manual mode. In standard mode it doesn't want to take photos. In standard mode it always has to be on AUTO.

    Also, sometimes, especially when it's dark around you, when you switch to video mode or slow mo, the screen gets very dark. To avoid this just go to the last photo or video and go back to the camera and everything is perfect.
  • marsic marsic
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    There's some kind of smooth "inertia" on the viewfinder (screen) with OIS, whereas with that "new" camera (which is built for non-Zeiss camera modules), does not support OIS, the movement is sudden, no smooth stop. Sorry, I don't know how to properly explain
  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    marsic said:
    Yes, I've noticed that i have the "disable" option instead of uninstall. No major problems so far, but only played with it for a few seconds. I'll dig into it later. The first thing that i noticed is that there's no optical stabilization
    I don't think so. Optical stabilization always work. I'm sure. 
  • marsic marsic
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    It feels different from the native stock app, au least for me. There's no smooth, transitional stop when you move the phone and suddenly stop. It may have electronic stabilization, i don't know for sure. Ofcourse, don't take my words for granted, I'm just saying what i see/feel on my device 😄
  • martin.fd martin.fd
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    marsic said:
    There's some kind of smooth "inertia" on the viewfinder (screen) with OIS, whereas with that "new" camera (which is built for non-Zeiss camera modules), does not support OIS, the movement is sudden, no smooth stop.
    Hmmm … I don't see any difference between the viewfinder images 


    I don't think so. Optical stabilization always work. I'm sure. 

    I think you are right 
  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    From the upper right 3 dots you can uninstall it.
  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    marsic said:
    There's some kind of smooth "inertia" on the viewfinder (screen) with OIS, whereas with that "new" camera (which is built for non-Zeiss camera modules), does not support OIS, the movement is sudden, no smooth stop. Sorry, I don't know how to properly explain
    It's maybe even the stock camera for Nokia 8.1.
  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    Actually I think the opposite and few of my photos shows this.
  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    marsic said:
    It is still catastrophic in low light compared to the Google camera, nowhere near it.
    Don't hurry with the last decision. Just test it a bit more. Low light photos with flash, this HMD camera is better. And it takes the right colors always.
  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    Night sight doesn't count :) No one can compete with this, nor Samsung, nor Sony... No one...
  • marsic marsic
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    The above examples were shot in the default (normal) camera mode with both apps, also both set to "auto" for everything, including flash. I did not compare it to "night sight", although I'd love to be surprised by hmd by actually achieving comparable results to Google's night sight. We fully deserve it, at least as a compensation for the misery they put us through.
  • naufrago naufrago
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    HMD stock camera's (or any other brand's) photos in dark environment with flash cannot be compared to Google's Night Sight. Night sight is app-based tech of Google and it's one of the most innovative software development of 2018. (As per xda)
    I hope HMD and Zeiss comes with something extraordinary to compete with others. (Not like dual-sight gimmick)
  • martin.fd martin.fd
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    1st picture: Standard Nokia 8 Cam Auto Mode



    2nd picture: Google Cam Auto Mode

    3rd Picture: Google Cam Night Sight

  • Fredson85 Fredson85
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    martin.fd said:
    I am currently (besides the standard Cam) using this one: https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/gcamera/GCam_6.1.021_N7P_test2.1.apk and it works quite well on my Nokia 8 
    I am using this one: MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova-based_v.1.2_TlnNeun.apk and did some adjustments in accordance with some post on reddit. This works pretty well for me in the field of low light photgraphy without using flash. I did not compare photos in bright conditions but I assume, that this isn't a problem.

    My gcam-settings:
    Settings > Advanced > Base > Model
    - Back camera: Pixel 2
    - Front camera: Pixel 2

    Settings > Advanced > Final JPG quality: 97%
    Settings > Advanced > Noise Reduction
    Back camera:
    - Activate: active
    - Noise model
    -- Activate: actvie
    -- Custom sensor noise offset a: 750 (default)
    -- Custom sensor noise offset b: 22500 (default)
    -- Custom sensor noise scale a; 2117875
    -- Custom sensor noise scale b: 113625
    - Denoise Parameters
    -- Activate: active
    -- Custom luma denoise at high ISO values (1): 1.1
    -- Custom luma denoise at average ISO values (2): 0.7
    -- Custom luma denoise at low ISO values (3): 0.1
    -- Custom chroma denoise at high ISO values (4): 5
    -- Custom chroma denoise at average ISO values (5): 10
    -- Custom chroma denoise at low ISO values:  5
    -- Custom denoise revert factor at high ISO values: 0.05
    -- Custom denoise revert factor at average ISO values: 0.05
    -- Custom denoise revert factor at low ISO values: 0.05

    same for front cam.

    Settings > Advanced > Libs: Stock by Google

    Maybe this is usefull for others.

    I made some shots for comparison:
    1. Stock Camera in Auto Mode
    2. Stock Camera in Pro Mode with ISO 800 and 1/2 s exposure time
    3. GCam in Auto Mode (Camera)

    The first is obviously the worst shot, while beeing pretty sharp in lacks in brightness and saturation (a lot!).
    The second one is the best i could manage tho shoot in pro mode. It's not bad either, having some noise but also a lot of detail and most accurate at colors. Anyway, having exposure time set to 1/2 s you'll need some steady hand to avoid to much blur and therefore it is not so usefull for everyday's shot.
    For the GCam I think it did a pretty good job, having less noise than the others but beeing still very sharp. You can see the algorithms magic getting into trouble when you look closer at the cover of the vacuum cleaner (makita). But still, I can live with that.

    Regards
    Fredson
  • marsic marsic
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    Don't hurry with the last decision. Just test it a bit more. Low light photos with flash, this HMD camera is better. And it takes the right colors always.
    This new HMD camera may seem usable in low light with flash, but from what I've noticed it's only for subjects situated at most a few metres away, within the effective range of the flash. Any farther and it still struggles to even capture contours or such vague hints of the farther subjects
  • martin.fd said:
    1st picture: Standard Nokia 8 Cam Auto Mode



    2nd picture: Google Cam Auto Mode

    3rd Picture: Google Cam Night Sight

    Which gcam mode are you currently using?
  • martin.fd martin.fd
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    See my post from 6:44 PM :)
  • martin.fd said:
    See my post from 6:44 PM :)
    You re probably running pie? Can you recommend one for oreo?
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