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  • potemkin potemkin
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    @mrbelter That photo is too small to really evaluate it.
  • MrBelter MrBelter
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    potemkin said:
    @mrbelter That photo is too small to really evaluate it.


  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    Nokia camera - dual - auto
    Second photo is edited with Google Photos with just aded Colour and Pop

    The size is small, because the photos were uploaded to Google Photos and deleted from the phone.
  • potemkin potemkin
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    @mrbelter That's definitely above average quality of photo taken by Nokia stock camera app. It's a shame it rarely happens to take quality low light photo.
  • potemkin potemkin
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    Second photo is edited with Google Photos with just aded Colour and Pop
    That ruined it.
  • MrBelter MrBelter
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    potemkin said:
    @mrbelter That's definitely above average quality of photo taken by Nokia stock camera app. It's a shame it rarely happens to take quality low light photo.
    It is because it wasn't a rushed snapshot, steady yourself, take a deep breath, tap to set focus and exposure and take the shot. If i posted a drunk selfie where you just jab the shutter they are all absolutely crap.
  • Jivko Antonov Jivko Antonov
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    potemkin said:
    Second photo is edited with Google Photos with just aded Colour and Pop
    That ruined it.
    It's like using AI effects on Huawei phones :) they make artificial photos like this one. 
  • petrus petrus
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    In bad light conditions, it is worth playing with the PRO mode.  :wink:
    Auto

    Pro

    I recommend zooming :)
  • jdan jdan
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    Can you share the pro settings?
  • petrus petrus
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    jdan said:
    Can you share the pro settings?
    Sorry, I forgot to write. :#  ISO 400 (street lighting was sufficient) shutter speed 1/2, other parameters were automatic. :smile:

  • Guys come on this photo taken right now with a little focus no flash an af control in maximum value. It is tragic I didn't pay 400 euros for this. My girlfriend's Huawei p10 with the same money take much better photos.i hope that Nokia will fix this camera app I don't want to spend another summer taken such bad photos.
  • jdan jdan
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    1 - complaining here about having bought the wrong phone doesn't help. Here we are the guys that have bought the same phone.
    2 - we guys here can only compare when we see (at least) two photographs. Please also post the photograph taken by the Huawei.
    3 - not many of us here use pro settings (use the search function in this forum to find them) but you may find some tips on pro mode on Nokia 8 (including extra links) on https://mijnnokia.wordpress.com/2019/02/12/taking-pictures-with-your-smartphone/
    Go to 10 - Pro Mode.

  • jdan jdan
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    petrus said:
    ISO 400 (street lighting was sufficient)
    shutter speed 1/2,
    other parameters were automatic. 
    I compared with the night photos on my website (in automatic mode) - click on the photos and on Flickr you find all the necessary info. 
    The windmill: ISO 1551 and shutter speed 1/10.
    The gate: ISO 437 and shutter speed 1/20.
    Your shutter speed is 1/2 - so that means you must either have a very steady hand or did you use something to keep the Nokia steady? I just took the pictures without any help.
    (So, if you increase the ISO, you can have faster shutter speeds.)
  • MrBelter MrBelter
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    petrus said:
    In bad light conditions, it is worth playing with the PRO mode.  :wink:
    Auto

    Pro

    I recommend zooming :)
    To be honest i prefer the one with the noise when zoomed, the pro mode shot looks like it has been subjected to some kind of digital smoothing. When not zoomed however the pro mode shot takes it.

    This is why i personally think zooming to 100% to judge the quality of the shot is total garbage, you see stuff you wouldn't see even if you printed the image out at A3.

    This is a wedding photo cropped to 100%, it was shot on a Canon 70D at ISO 1600 and is a raw file converted to a JPEG file in post and because there was no in camera trickery processing a JPEG you get all the sensor noise and you are stuck with that no matter what. As you can see it is rubbish, there are hot pixels visible and it is so noisy. When viewed at anything other than 100% though it is a lovely photo of the groom and his best man taking a moment to reflect on the day and they absolutely loved it.



  • MrBelter MrBelter
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    Guys come on this photo taken right now with a little focus no flash an af control in maximum value. It is tragic I didn't pay 400 euros for this. My girlfriend's Huawei p10 with the same money take much better photos.i hope that Nokia will fix this camera app I don't want to spend another summer taken such bad photos.
    If only you had put HDR on and tapped on the TV before hitting the shutter button.
  • petrus petrus
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  • petrus petrus
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    jdan said:
    petrus said:
    ISO 400 (street lighting was sufficient)
    shutter speed 1/2,
    other parameters were automatic. 
    I compared with the night photos on my website (in automatic mode) - click on the photos and on Flickr you find all the necessary info. 
    The windmill: ISO 1551 and shutter speed 1/10.
    The gate: ISO 437 and shutter speed 1/20.
    Your shutter speed is 1/2 - so that means you must either have a very steady hand or did you use something to keep the Nokia steady? I just took the pictures without any help.
    (So, if you increase the ISO, you can have faster shutter speeds.)
    I held it in my hands. But it was the fourth picture.
  • Hugh Matthews Hugh Matthews
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    jdan said:
    Nokia 6 is better. But both pictures are not that sharp.
    Other settings?
    Zoom in on my pictures of similar shots. Mine are much sharper, aren't they? By gcam and. stock camera on Nokia 8.
    To my mind (thru my eyes), the plant is marginally better, but not the gravel in the pot
  • Hugh Matthews Hugh Matthews
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    mrbelter said:
    I am sure we can all agree this photo was taken in low light. Stock app on auto, as usual i just tapped where i wanted the focus and exposure locking and shot it before the 3 second race to reset could happen (if only HMD would stop that!). No editing other than a resize has taken place.


    Beautiful!
  • madbilly madbilly
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    Geotags are working fine for me on Android 8.1 December patch, so that plus the compass problem means I'm not upgrading yet.
  • MrBelter MrBelter
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    mrbelter said:
    I am sure we can all agree this photo was taken in low light. Stock app on auto, as usual i just tapped where i wanted the focus and exposure locking and shot it before the 3 second race to reset could happen (if only HMD would stop that!). No editing other than a resize has taken place.


    Beautiful!
    Cheers :)
  • K.Raghu K.Raghu
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    Anyone else notice the missing RAW image capture option after the PIE update ? have chatted with support they have not provided any fixes for it yet. Nokia 8 2017. was working till Jan 2019
  • MrBelter MrBelter
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    The sensor noise in a JPEG is bad enough, i'd imagine it is really bad in a raw image. That said i have never had the option to capture files in a raw format on my Nokia 8.
  • user389 user389
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    HMD's own camera app never had an option to save in RAW format as far as I know. Third-party apps must use Camera2 API to enable RAW capture.
    I recommend the Open Camera app by Mark Harman. It does this and much, much more when Camera2 API is toggled on, down the first settings page in the app.
    (Google Photos has limited support for editing of .dng files on the phone, Snapseed better, but a computer with a calibrated monitor is a must, really).
    --
    Hans
  • jdan jdan
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    user389 said:
    A few more comments to maybe consider
    I updated my site ... Thank you for your tips!
  • Hi. I'm having a hard time with the camera. The photos are reflecting too much light. I can not make good pictures. It happens with both cameras.<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6031042/uploads/editor/sq/ery6fctmhdca.jpg" alt="">
  • jdan jdan
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    What have you already done to solve the problem?
  • K.Raghu K.Raghu
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    > @user389 said:
    > @K.Raghu ,
    >
    > HMD's own camera app never had an option to save in RAW format as far as I know. Third-party apps must use Camera2 API to enable RAW capture.
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    > I recommend the Open Camera app by Mark Harman. It does this and much, much more when Camera2 API is toggled on, down the first settings page in the app.
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    > (Google Photos has limited support for editing of .dng files on the phone, Snapseed better, but a computer with a calibrated monitor is a must, really).
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    > Hans

    @user389
    Sample image attached showing dng format and build model,
    its standard OTB, I hate 3rd party apps. either nokia or MS. I can google too for 2rd party apps.
  • martin.fd martin.fd
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    There is a brand new version of the back.rider GCam port: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-backrider/

    I tried the white balance "Pixel 3 AWB" (can be activated in the settings under "GCam Settings") with this and with the previous version  and must say that the results are very convincing especially with artificial light.


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