Compass not working since Pie

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  • marsic
    marsic ✭✭✭✭
    @Jimmmy we all wish for fixes, but sadly Laura's announcement seemed to only refer to the March security patch, exclusively.

    I'm taking the announcement itself with a pinch (plus an extra truckload) of salt. May be just filthy lies, after all everything they said so far has been 99% trolling bs. Akin to scams, basically.

    Tl;dr: HMD gets zero expectations, zero trust from me.

    Unpopular opinion, for sure, but I gotta vent (or I'll soon get a prescription for a lovely tight shirt with long sleeves): I see people actually still getting excited by such announcements from HMD... Have we not seen their true filthy troll face by now? Better than nothing, ofcourse, but I cannot see how these fossils baptised in the Microsoft ways can ever change!

  • MrBelter
    MrBelter ✭✭✭✭
    marsic said:
    @Jimmmy we all wish for fixes, but sadly Laura's announcement seemed to only refer to the March security patch, exclusively.

    I'm taking the announcement itself with a pinch (plus an extra truckload) of salt. May be just filthy lies, after all everything they said so far has been 99% trolling bs. Akin to scams, basically.

    Tl;dr: HMD gets zero expectations, zero trust from me.

    Unpopular opinion, for sure, but I gotta vent (or I'll soon get a prescription for a lovely tight shirt with long sleeves): I see people actually still getting excited by such announcements from HMD... Have we not seen their true filthy troll face by now? Better than nothing, ofcourse, but I cannot see how these fossils baptised in the Microsoft ways can ever change!

    I think you are right to be sceptical, i am just keeping quiet and waiting to see what comes but recent history hasn't left me optimistic.

    Laura posting was just a glimmer of hope that maybe, just maybe HMD are willing to do a bit more talking. Surely it is in their best interests and they would get a lot less grief over it. When they post something on twitter at the minute it is all a bit buckle up and sit tight waiting for the tirade of anti HMD comments and that cannot be good for business. That said their are seemingly millions of **** kissing sheep that seem to fawn over every word said so maybe it isn't as harmful as i am saying it is.
  • marsic
    marsic ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2019
    @mrbelter unfortunately those sheep are drowning complaints, sometimes even ridiculing those complaining, out of blind "faith" in the Nokia name. A guy commented on Twitter speculating that HMD seem to prepare to only sell in India and surrounding Asian markets, reasoning that they've kinda failed elsewhere. That wouldn't surprise me to become a reality. If only they'd fix their software mess before melting into irrelevance...
  • potemkin
    potemkin ✭✭✭
    edited April 2019
    mrbelter said:
    their are seemingly millions of **** kissing sheep that seem to fawn over every word said so maybe it isn't as harmful as i am saying it is.
    It's because HMD messed up only Nokia 8 which holds just a minor share of their sold devices. That's why they ignored Nokia 8 issues it in the first place. But this situation won't last much longer. Sirocco and Nokia 9 owners are now starting to feel HMD's lack of support and respect. When autumn comes all those low and mid range phone owners will be in the same or similar situation as we are now in.

  • marsic
    marsic ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2019
    @potemkin Twitter is full of people complaining of all kind of problems in absolutely each and every model that HMD has ever launched. It's a general state of affairs, it's the HMD attempt at business that drowned itself in a ton of devices seemingly designed and produced in a rush, to rapidly climb the ladder of fame and relevance. Now it is biting their throats (Sirocco chewed their áss soon after launch, so the throat was the next logical target)

    Uhm... 🤮
  • MrBelter
    MrBelter ✭✭✭✭
    potemkin said:
    mrbelter said:
    their are seemingly millions of **** kissing sheep that seem to fawn over every word said so maybe it isn't as harmful as i am saying it is.
    It's because HMD messed up only Nokia 8 which holds just a minor share of their sold devices. That's why they ignored Nokia 8 issues it in the first place. But this situation won't last much longer. Sirocco and Nokia 9 owners are now starting to feel HMD's lack of support and respect. When autumn comes all those low and mid range phone owners will be in the same or similar situation as we are now in.

    If you read the comments on Twitter they are coming from the owners of seemingnly every device HMD has ever released.
  • MrBelter
    MrBelter ✭✭✭✭
    Why on gods earth is the word bútt being censored? Was the profanity filter set up by a 10 year old?
  • MrBelter
    MrBelter ✭✭✭✭
    marsic said:
    @potemkin Twitter is full of people complaining of all kind of problems in absolutely each and every model that HMD has ever launched. It's a general state of affairs, it's the HMD attempt at business that drowned itself in a ton of devices seemingly designed and produced in a rush, to rapidly climb the ladder of fame and relevance. Now it is biting their throats (Sirocco chewed their áss soon after launch, so the throat was the next logical target)

    Uhm... 🤮
    what he said :D
  • Jimmmy
    Jimmmy
    You guys are right. This current Nokia brand (HMD) has nothing to do with the original Nokia. Neither the quality of the services or products and the philosophy of the original  Nokia company. I take it as a brand new company with only the Nokia name. It is unheard of how many errors their new products have, especially the high-end segment. Nokia 8, Nokia 9 PureView...too many software bugs. In this way Nokia does not have a chance to cope or at least, slowly catch up with other brands. For me, I bought Nokia 8 and it was a mistake, so that was my last purchase HMD product.
  • martin.fd
    martin.fd ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2019
    Sorry guys: May I kindly remind you that this is the "Compass-not-working-since Pie-thread" and not a "I-express-my-general-dissatisfaction-with-HMD-thread" (of which there are unfortunately quite a few in the meantime ...)?!
    @HMD_Laura I want to point out that I would also like to see a bit more communication from your side (and bug fixes of course!), but that I don't approve of the sometimes very personal verbal attacks against HMD and its employees at all!
  • MrBelter
    MrBelter ✭✭✭✭
    Us talking about the compass working isn't going to make it magically do so, this thread is 13 pages long and it hasn't happened as yet.

    I always thought thread drift made for a great community as the conversion meandered in and out of the subject at hand but maybe i am wrong.
  • user1535316420182
    user1535316420182 ✭✭✭
    i think one-time issue is not meaning of compass issue or etc. its about something  about security updwte thing hmd will not solve compass issue anymore.
  • wild50
    wild50 ✭✭
    Good luck with the new purchase. By the way ... all brands have problems.
  • marsic
    marsic ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2019
    @LubosBaca great news, finally relieved of HMD scam. I'll do the same if the device won't become close to the perfection that the shameless lying hyena trolled us with back in October.

    @wild50 others may have their problems too, I agree, nobody's perfect. But at least others won't torture your mind with such BS as shamelessly and perpetually as these scams! Personal point of view, of course.

    For every fellow scammed buddy on this forum: if by any chance I'll get banned before the end of the month for my lack of refrain in expressing my views, I wish you all to find a satisfying resolution to the HMD trap (or however you perceive it personally) and thanks for not boo-ing me excessively for my outbursts. It was all targeted to the scammers.
  • MarcoAntonio
    MarcoAntonio ✭✭
    I really need a working compass, please solve the problem or refund my Nokia 8.
  • Aleksei Shramko
    Aleksei Shramko ✭✭
    wild50 said:
    ... all brands have problems.
    Yeah...
    But none of the them has (at the top level) juho sarvikas with longstanding mantra "...soon.... very soon..."
  • user1508938037450
    user1508938037450 ✭✭✭
    @martin.fd Yes, HMD gives us no informations. And, her service and support is more than bad. 😡

    But "Laura" ist not HMD, and she doesn't work for HMD, too.

    She is ONLY a mod in this community/ forum. She makes, what she can do.
    And, I'm afraid/ believe, that she has same informations from HMD than we. Perhaps she gets informations, when they come from HMD, as a first. Then she can inform us. But, this was it. More she can't do, too.

    This all is a HMD-PROBLEM. 😡😡😡
  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User
    On-topic: update: compass not working on Android 9, still working on all previous version of the Android OS which have been available for the 8, including 8.1, which my phone is still running because I decided not to upgrade until the compass and geotagging are fixed.

    Off-topic: I read a lot about people "leaving Nokia" and going to other brands where they are sure they will feel less disappointed. I think that is mainly because they will not have such high expectations of other brands, except possible Apple, Google and Samsung (maybe also Motorola, LG and Sony). For now, I'm sticking with the phone I have because it works very well (but note the point above) and to get another phone of equivalent capability I'll have to spend a lot more than I could ever sell this phone for second-hand.

    user1508938037450 as far as I know HMD_Laura does work for HMD; maybe not directly, maybe as a contractor, but certainly paid in some way (at least I hope so!).

    Cheers :)
  • Francesco Bacchini
    Francesco Bacchini ✭✭
    madbilly said:
    On-topic: update: compass not working on Android 9, still working on all previous version of the Android OS which have been available for the 8, including 8.1, which my phone is still running because I decided not to upgrade until the compass and geotagging are fixed.

    Off-topic: I read a lot about people "leaving Nokia" and going to other brands where they are sure they will feel less disappointed. I think that is mainly because they will not have such high expectations of other brands, except possible Apple, Google and Samsung (maybe also Motorola, LG and Sony). For now, I'm sticking with the phone I have because it works very well (but note the point above) and to get another phone of equivalent capability I'll have to spend a lot more than I could ever sell this phone for second-hand.

    Hi @user1508938037450 as far as I know HMD_Laura does work for HMD; maybe not directly, maybe as a contractor, but certainly paid in some way (at least I hope so!).

    Cheers :)
    Hi!
    I solved my issues downloading the app "Stato GPS" from the Play Store. It's basically an app that every 15 minutes forces the phone to download A-GPS packages again. I know it's not a permanent solution, but now the phone is usable again.

    Concerning your point about "high expectations" I totally agree on that, and I'm currently writing about the same problem that is affecting Nokia 9 PureView in my next review. The problem, as you've already highlighted, is the enormous hype that the phone generated. Everyone was expecting miracles from its camera compartment, but, in the end, it's just a premium smartphone that holds up really well with the competitors.

    Stay tuned if you want to read my next review, which is just about photography itself.
  • MrBelter
    MrBelter ✭✭✭✭
    Francesco Bacchini said:
    madbilly said:
    On-topic: update: compass not working on Android 9, still working on all previous version of the Android OS which have been available for the 8, including 8.1, which my phone is still running because I decided not to upgrade until the compass and geotagging are fixed.

    Off-topic: I read a lot about people "leaving Nokia" and going to other brands where they are sure they will feel less disappointed. I think that is mainly because they will not have such high expectations of other brands, except possible Apple, Google and Samsung (maybe also Motorola, LG and Sony). For now, I'm sticking with the phone I have because it works very well (but note the point above) and to get another phone of equivalent capability I'll have to spend a lot more than I could ever sell this phone for second-hand.

    Hi @user1508938037450 as far as I know HMD_Laura does work for HMD; maybe not directly, maybe as a contractor, but certainly paid in some way (at least I hope so!).

    Cheers :)
    Hi!
    I solved my issues downloading the app "Stato GPS" from the Play Store. It's basically an app that every 15 minutes forces the phone to download A-GPS packages again. I know it's not a permanent solution, but now the phone is usable again.

    Concerning your point about "high expectations" I totally agree on that, and I'm currently writing about the same problem that is affecting Nokia 9 PureView in my next review. The problem, as you've already highlighted, is the enormous hype that the phone generated. Everyone was expecting miracles from its camera compartment, but, in the end, it's just a premium smartphone that holds up really well with the competitors.

    Stay tuned if you want to read my next review, which is just about photography itself.
    A-GPS is just the location of the satellites to improve lock times, it has nothing to do with finding magnetic north or south and wont help the compass.
  • user1508938037450
    user1508938037450 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2019
    @Francesco Bacchini The problem with the compass has his reason in Android Pie and in the "development-work" of HMD. I don't know one app, who makes it better and solved this problem. A user in a other thread tested "STATO GPS", too (when I remembered me correctly), and it was the same. All here are hopeful  and wait on the "update" THIS WEEK. 😎 We will see. 🙄

    And, yes, 8 and 9 have BOTH problems with the camera-app, and the only words from HMD are "coming soon, please wait". 😜 That's all. We will see, what this week will bring. 🙄

    But, when you write here the 9 Pure View ist a "firstclass-smartphone", "eye in eye" with the flagships of Samsung, Huawei and so on, I can't understand it.
    I don't know one test-report with good results for the 9 Pure View, especially the camera-app.

    And here we can return to the Nokia 8 with the same results. 😒😒😒
  • marsic
    marsic ✭✭✭✭
    @Jimmmy your second paragraph landed on my soul, that's exactly my struggle, it even affected my productivity to a rather visible negative margin, people keep asking me if i have any serious health issues or such... All while I'm anxiously checking for f-ing updates with f-ing fixes that seem farther and farther from the realms of possibility...
    🤮
  • user1535316420182
    user1535316420182 ✭✭✭
    if hmd will not solve this problem in this weeks update i will send my device to service for it. İf they will not solve there is only choice for them is refund...
  • potemkin
    potemkin ✭✭✭

    Jimmmy said:
    The user buys an expensive (at the time of purchase) smartphone and has to deal with a malfunctioning compass
    Even if this was a low range smartphone, it would be inexcusable to have to wait for a fix this long. It's 2019, this is basic feature!!
  • wild50
    wild50 ✭✭
    it's no use complaining here in this forum
    send your complaints to here:





  • potemkin
    potemkin ✭✭✭
    wild50 said:
    it's no use complaining here in this forum
    send your complaints to here:


    Sadly, there is absolutely no difference between complaining here or to clueless support staff.
  • martin.fd
    martin.fd ✭✭✭✭
    wild50 said:
    it's no use complaining here in this forum
    send your complaints to here:

    Done several times - you can see the success ...
  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User
    Anyone who has not yet contacted support should do so to add their voice to the noise.

    When we finally get an update and if the compass doesn't work then we all need to do it all over again (oh joy).

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