Compass not working since Pie

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  • Jivko Antonov
    Jivko Antonov ✭✭✭
    https://youtu.be/5YuxTG6b4_M
  • martin.fd
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    Please try what I suggested here: https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/102870#Comment_102870 with your Nokia 8 and watch the compass needle flip while turning around ...
  • Mick1965
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    edited April 2019
    Jivko Antonov said:
    https://youtu.be/5YuxTG6b4_M
    Load up Google sky maps ( its free ) and see how you get on with that. 
    If that works then I will bow out gracefully and admit that you have a Nokia 8 with a working compass. Probably the only one in the world .(running Pie)
  • MrBelter
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    martin.fd said:
    It's clear that this works in the car at higher speeds because the apps then switch from Compass orientation to GPS orientation. At low speeds (pedestrians) or when standing still, the direction is wrong!
    I agree 100% with this.
  • Jivko Antonov
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    edited April 2019
    Yes. You are right boys. At standing still is a mess.
  • MrBelter
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    Jivko Antonov said:
    Yes. You are right boys. At standing still is a mess.
    Hurrah  :D
  • martin.fd
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    And I was already thinking ...
    >:)
  • martin.fd
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    - car navigation works (more or less: at standstill the map keeps rotating)
    - pedestrian doesn't ...
  • martin.fd
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    @hikari calyx and https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/103050#Comment_103050: Compass Hardware works perfectly - it is the BS that doesn't process the signals correctly ...


  • Siviri
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    Ho everyone, I've just rolled back to Oreo and I can confirm that the compass is working again!
  • MrBelter
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    martin.fd said:
    - car navigation works (more or less: at standstill the map keeps rotating)
    - pedestrian doesn't ...
    To be honest my phone was probably just working out the direction i was going in given it would have been getting confusing signals from the compass saying one thing and the GPS saying another.
  • Jimmmy
    Jimmmy
    Siviri said:
    Ho everyone, I've just rolled back to Oreo and I can confirm that the compass is working again!

    I'm thinking about it until I will buy a new phone. Rather, I wonder if all the apps, app data and personal data will stay in my phone when I roll back to Oreo.  Is everything backed up and will it stay stored on the phone after roll back? Because it is an unofficial way. Thanks!
  • Siviri
    Siviri ✭✭
    Data will be lost but the smartphone is usable again. Today I used Maps and it worked fine as it used to be. 
  • Jimmmy
    Jimmmy
    I don't want to lose my data and set everything up again.  My nerves are gone.  I believe that within a month (if the update does not come out but 99.9% does not come) I’m selling my current phone as I believe that the competitors will not let me down like Nokia does.
  • Mick1965
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    Jimmmy said:
    I don't want to lose my data and set everything up again.  My nerves are gone.  I believe that within a month (if the update does not come out but 99.9% does not come) I’m selling my current phone as I believe that the competitors will not let me down like Nokia does.
    Don't forget that if you buy a new phone you will have to go through the same setting up as you would if you factory reset your current phone. Which is also the same as rolling back to Oreo.
  • Jimmmy
    Jimmmy
    Mick1965 said:
    Jimmmy said:
    I don't want to lose my data and set everything up again.  My nerves are gone.  I believe that within a month (if the update does not come out but 99.9% does not come) I’m selling my current phone as I believe that the competitors will not let me down like Nokia does.
    Don't forget that if you buy a new phone you will have to go through the same setting up as you would if you factory reset your current phone. Which is also the same as rolling back to Oreo.
    It's different situation. That's a big failure from Nokia that nervous users means nothing for them. It is normal thing, when you buy a new phone, it is necessary to set it up and it is without data.  But Nokia 8 is my current phone so it's two different things.  Because of Nokia's inability, I won't lose my data.
  • Mick1965
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    Two different identical things.

    I think I understand .
  • Jimmmy
    Jimmmy
    edited April 2019
    Mick1965 said:
    Two different identical things.

    I think I understand .

    Can you explain why I should want to lose my data because of the Nokia brand's inability on my current phone?  Everybody knows, on the new phone are no data.  I want to get rid of this junk and buy a good phone.  But I don't know when it will be.  Until then, should I lose data on my current phone? I don't understand your sarcasm.  Do you understand my point of view or do you have a problem with it?
  • Mick1965
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    edited April 2019
    No problem every one deserves the right to an oppinion.

    Just pointing out that regardless  of whether you decide to roll back to oreo giving you a working phone or buy a new phone you will need to re install everything.
  • MrBelter
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    Jimmmy said:
    Mick1965 said:
    Two different identical things.

    I think I understand .

    Can you explain why I should want to lose my data because of the Nokia brand's inability on my current phone?
    Why do you think you will lose all your data? So long as you have back up turned on and you have checked to make sure it has been recently done (or just tell it to do a fresh one) it will all just install again once you have got past the initial putting your google account in.
  • Mick1965
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    Lol.
    O/T You may jest, but isn't this actually happening. 
    https://futurism.com/earths-magnetic-poles-overdue-switch
  • martin.fd
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    edited April 2019
    martin.fd said:
    I have just given my Nokia 8 to the electronics market ...
    ... and I'm now back on the road with my old (MS, not NOKIA ;) ) Lumia 640 LTE and really enjoy the simplicity and straightforwardness of W10M ... why the **** couldn't it go on with that???
  • martin.fd
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    interesting **** filter here ... wasn't really "dangerous" ?!?!?!  B)o:)
  • user389
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    martin.fd said:
    It's clear that this works in the car at higher speeds because the apps then switch from Compass orientation to GPS orientation. At low speeds (pedestrians) or when standing still, the direction is wrong!
    To clarify, both the magnetometer and the GPS compass is mathematically upside-down in Nokia 8 with Android Pie.
    (Try hold another phone with a compass app screen-down and rotate it slowly, to see the same odd behaviour).

    The location services in Android make use of all radios and all sensors plus some clever algorithms to determine the direction and speed when the phone is moving. It can also determine whether the user is walking, running, on a bicycle, a motorcycle, or in a car.
    It is more accurate and battery-efficient to count the steps in a (correct!) compass direction than polling the GPS when moving slowly, since the GPS signal has a tolerance of several meters in all directions.

    -- 
    Hans
  • user1535839818327
    user1535839818327
    Same thing for me, compass is upside down 
  • Mick1965
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    user389 said:
    To clarify, both the magnetometer and the GPS compass is mathematically upside-down in Nokia 8 with Android Pie.
    (Try hold another phone with a compass app screen-down and rotate it slowly, to see the same odd behaviour).


    My observations
    Like you said a 2d compass held upside down in Oreo reacts the same as the same 2d compass held right way up in pie.

    But a 3d compass held upside down in Oreo still points to the correct direction .
    The same 3d compass in pie is all over the place held any orientation .
    It seems like the problem is with compass not communicating with the orientation device. ( Inclinometer ? )


  • user1529662512515
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    A similar issue with the Samsung Note 9 compass has occurred and has been fixed end of march 2019.... Can we still hope it's our turn soon??

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