Some reviews of the 9 PureView are starting to arrive

Hi everyone, There are some reviews of the 9 PureView starting to arrive on the internet.

Some reviews of the 9 PureView are starting to arrive

madbilly madbilly
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Hi everyone,

There are some reviews of the 9 PureView starting to arrive on the internet. Many highlight problems with the fingerprint sensor, camera crashing and slow processing times. Poor performance in low light is also a problem.

For the camera, Android Authority did a review but like many it does not actually highlight the unique features of the 9, it instead just compares the same features which every other phone has got.

However, thanks to Nokiamob, I became aware of a great video review of some of the truly unique features that the 9 PureView has:

These are the kind of reviews I would like to see and would expect "reputable" websites like AA to publish.

Cheers :)

Comments

  • N808 N808
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    I posted the following video in another thread.

    A follow up in depth camera review is promised.











  • Nokia 9 PureView Real-World Camera Test by TheUnlockr



    Yep, it's all about the camera again but i don't mind. Camera performance is my biggest intrest too. Only problem is, how to find honest/real reviews ?
  • madbilly madbilly
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    IMO, honest reviews has always been a problem for Nokia phones, especially in North America where there is such a fanbase for iPhones, it's very difficult to believe that the journalists are properly objective.

    Gavin's gadgets wasn't a very useful video but the Unlocker was much better - that's what I want to see in a video review, not just someone sat down talking at a camera.

    Here's another from XDA with some good chat about the camera and not much else; not as good to watch as the video above:

    I continue to find how Americans pronounce Nokia to be hilarious, "You've probably heard of Noe-kee-ya"! :D

    I know that Brits aren't much better, but at least it's a bit closer to the Finnish pronunciation ;)
  • N808 N808
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    Clove Technology has posted a video comparing the cameras of the Nokia 9 and the Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus:



  • For my personal experience with the phone, the photos are more natural-looking. I'm fine with that. You can always add more pop with filters and editing
  • The girl from Clove is cute, but that voice - OMG. 😄
  • potemkin potemkin
     /  edited March 15
    Terrible low light performance and extremely shaky video. Disgrace to the PureView brand.
  • N808 N808
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    Evindzer said:
    The girl from Clove is cute, but that voice - OMG. 😄
    Do you think I was being charitable putting it down to poor audio quality?
  • potemkin said:
    Terrible low light performance and extremely shaky video. Disgrace to the PureView brand.

    Video clip 1080p with EIS and no HDR. It look's good to me. 4K without EIS seems to be shaky

  • TommiS said:
    potemkin said:
    Terrible low light performance and extremely shaky video. Disgrace to the PureView brand.

    Video clip 1080p with EIS and no HDR. It look's good to me. 4K without EIS seems to be shaky
    Well, good for those people who plan to buy a "PureView" phone and not want to shoot decent video in 4K in 2019.
  • N808 N808
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    A camera review featuring central London.

    Although he shows JPEG photos he does not elaborate on the camera settings preferring to concentrate on post production RAW files.








  • Evindzer said:
    The girl from Clove is cute, but that voice - OMG. 😄
    It's almost like combining 10,000 dentist visits into one
  • N808 N808
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    Pitkänen said:
    Evindzer said:
    The girl from Clove is cute, but that voice - OMG. 😄
    It's almost like combining 10,000 dentist visits into one
    As long as the dentist involved was not like:






  • madbilly madbilly
     /  edited March 16
    TommiS said:
    Video clip 1080p with EIS and no HDR. It look's good to me. 4K without EIS seems to be shaky
    I also just read in comments of AAWP that 4K video does not use EIS. Is that definitely correct? Why not? Isn't it a bit weird not to?

    What do the Sirocco and 7+ do in 4K video?

    Also makes me wonder again about the overall camera app and what's shared between models because the 8's camera uses EIS in 1080p and 720p video but it doesn't need to as the 8 has OIS.
  • madbilly said:

    I also just read in comments of AAWP that 4K video does not use EIS. Is that definitely correct? Why not? Isn't it a bit weird not to?

    I don't know where i have got this image in my head but my guess is that EIS crops the resolution and so on for full 4k resolution EIS is not possible. But with 1080p where is plenty to crop because the 4k capability. 

    But all this could be totally wrong ? 🤔
  • madbilly madbilly
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    I think you're right that's how EIS works on the Nokia Android phones. Still, the phone has 12MP cameras so should be able to do EIS at 4K without cropping shouldn't it?
  • Kartik Gada Kartik Gada
     /  edited March 17
    I continue to find how Americans pronounce Nokia to be hilarious, "You've probably heard of Noe-kee-ya"! :D

    I know that Brits aren't much better, but at least it's a bit closer to the Finnish pronunciation ;)
    It should sound as Knock-yea when you pronounce Nokia and not No-Kia. This is what the international Nokia facebook page once shared in 2012 or 2013.😁
  • I continue to find how Americans pronounce Nokia to be hilarious, "You've probably heard of Noe-kee-ya"! :D

    I know that Brits aren't much better, but at least it's a bit closer to the Finnish pronunciation ;)
    It should sound as Knock-yea when you pronounce Nokia and not No-Kia. This is what the international Nokia facebook page once shared in 2012 or 2013.😁
    Since everyone's on the topic of how to pronounce things, here's another one:

    How do you say ------ S A U N A  ?

    Discuss :lol:
  • The Brits and Americans are both close, but both don't pronounce 'Nokia' how Finn's pronounce the word.


    At the end of the day, it really DOESN'T MATTER! LOL
    Chill... :smile:
  • To put an end to the debate, give the video a watch and model the pronunciation. You'll hear it about 50,000 times. Ready? :smiley:


  • madbilly madbilly
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    I say Sauna. ;)
    That lady from Clove has a fairly common UK accent.

    In the Clove video why does the 9 PureView day KRANO or KRAND on the back? Weird!

    I think I prefer the 9 PureView photos in that video, except low light, and the Samsung video obviously.

    Interestingly Tuomas Harjumaaskola says he doesn't use 4K video, only 1080p. His written review is very interesting: https://m.facebook.com/notes/tuomas-harjumaaskola/the-brand-new-nokia-9-pureview-has-crazy-five-camera-system-and-ive-been-using-i/10161409468060371/



  • Kartik Gada Kartik Gada
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    madbilly said:
    I say Sauna. ;)
    That lady from Clove has a fairly common UK accent.

    In the Clove video why does the 9 PureView day KRANO or KRAND on the back? Weird!
    The Nokia 9 PureView used in the Clove UK video is a prototype device and hence it has KRAND written at the back. Prototype devices of Nokia Mobile have BRAND or KRAND written on them instead of the actual Nokia logo but have the same font as Nokia logo.

    Now you know why it has KRAND written on it😁

  • madbilly madbilly
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    Wow! I didn't know that, good to know. Has it always been like that, or is that only an HMD thing, not old Nokia?

    I'm surprised that 1) Clove have a prototype and 2) they used it in a review, surely they should have used a full production version?

    The who's your boss video is a bit corny. I wonder if he's ever used that DSLR he poses with?! Interesting though, is forgotten how drab and dull most of London is - I think he was push the truth when he said there were great views... Not where I'd choose to go for great cityscapes.

  • madbilly said:
    I say Sauna. ;)
    That lady from Clove has a fairly common UK accent.
    My Dad (Finnish-born) built a sauna in our basement before I was born. I grew up using one, and as a result, I've had little choice but to say sao-na; rather than sauna ('flora and fauna'). This also probably explains my socialised bias :smile:  Either way, I tend not to correct people when they say it the way that they were socialised to say it. Again, at the end of the day, in communication, if the message is received by the sender, that is the most important thing. But, our biases, admittedly, can create noise which can sometimes be inhibiting to objectively receiving a message.

    The lady from Clove's 'accent' is lovely. I think that the above comment was more related (at least in my opinion) to the actual tone of her voice - quite similar to that of a Peking opera performer. Regardless of that, I still watched her entire review, but felt suddenly refreshed when it had ended :tongue:
  • Pitkänen Pitkänen
     /  edited March 17
    On the topic of communication.. but slightly off the topic of more Nokia 9 PureView videos coming out:

    One thing that I am very impressed with in  this community (and applaud) is that so many people, from non-English speaking countries can (and do) comment freely to the best of their ability, and don't need to worry about being *bullied, *shamed or *mocked if they happen to make an error or two in the English language.

    I think that it's commendable, and a sign of an overall respectful community.
  • madbilly madbilly
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    I fully agree with you - if the message is received then accent, grammar, spelling etc don't matter. You're right about this community too, although I wish there were more non English sections for those people who don't feel confident writing in English.

    This community - connecting people ;)
  • N808 N808
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    madbilly said:
     Interesting though, is forgotten how drab and dull most of London is - I think he was push the truth when he said there were great views... Not where I'd choose to go for great cityscapes.



    Your comment reminded me of the scene from 'Fawlty Towers':






  • madbilly said:
    I think you're right that's how EIS works on the Nokia Android phones. Still, the phone has 12MP cameras so should be able to do EIS at 4K without cropping shouldn't it?
    I guess it should ? I'am not a big fan of video recording so i'am not so familiar with the image stabilization techniques.

    SomeGadgetGuy has some good thoughts.


  • madbilly said:
    IMO, honest reviews has always been a problem for Nokia phones, especially in North America where there is such a fanbase for iPhones, it's very difficult to believe that the journalists are properly objective.

    Gavin's gadgets wasn't a very useful video but the Unlocker was much better - that's what I want to see in a video review, not just someone sat down talking at a camera.

    Here's another from XDA with some good chat about the camera and not much else; not as good to watch as the video above:

    I continue to find how Americans pronounce Nokia to be hilarious, "You've probably heard of Noe-kee-ya"! :D

    I know that Brits aren't much better, but at least it's a bit closer to the Finnish pronunciation ;)
    Gavin gave an honest opinion with facts in his hands to be fair, I have seen other reviews like from mr whos the boss which was a paid promo and then captain xenon steve lichtfield who used someone elses images to post a load of drivel up and complain because he didnt get a handset so you can toss that out the window. The problem however lies with juho being yet again just so arrogant and getting involved in social with good comments and ignoring the negative his position is not tenable anymore being one sided. 
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