Change how New Discussion button works for new members

Hi @HMD_Laura et al,We still get many people every day posting their questions in random threads because they can't start a new topic and can't be bothered to look for the correct place to post their question.I suggest a change to how the New Discussion button works:* Don't hide it for new members, but make it visible and clickable * When they click it, give them a screen which says they must wait 24 hours after joining to become a new member and give them a choice 1) post and wait 24 hours for the new topic to appear or 2) allow them to choose a forum and a single thread in which to post their question * To make the second option work, post a new topic into every phone forum called "New members' questions" which is where they are directed if they choose option 2.

Change how New Discussion button works for new members

madbilly madbilly
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Hi @HMD_Laura et al,
We still get many people every day posting their questions in random threads because they can't start a new topic and can't be bothered to look for the correct place to post their question.
I suggest a change to how the New Discussion button works:
  1. Don't hide it for new members, but make it visible and clickable
  2. When they click it, give them a screen which says they must wait 24 hours after joining to become a new member and give them a choice 1) post and wait 24 hours for the new topic to appear or 2) allow them to choose a forum and a single thread in which to post their question
  3. To make the second option work, post a new topic into every phone forum called "New members' questions" which is where they are directed if they choose option 2.
  4. New members will be restricted to posting in these threads for the first 24 hours, after which they can post as normal.
This would help reduce the amount of badly placed questions and it would also give existing members a clear place to watch to help new members. Most internet forums have a similar place called "New members" so the concept is well tested and accepted.

Cheers :)

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  • singhnsk singhnsk
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    And @HMDLaura, ^^^^ this needs to be fixed too. Idk how that happens but so many users are sending in code parts in the body of their posts. Most likely new users for whom using these shotcodes is not allowed.

    @madbilly a nice idea. But I'm of the opinion that a captcha or other kinds of human-check challenges for new users makes more sense. Most users who are looking for help just join the forum when they need help and asking them to wait 24 hours is a pain point. A separate forum for them will be confusing as well. I see stricter human verification checks during signup and for the first 24 hours as the most ideal solution.

    Akismet easily filters out most of the spam easily too and it doesn't require human checks. I'm sure it is available for a variety of platforms, including Vanilla.

    Also, stopping them from posting links until they rank up will fix 99.9% of manual spam anyways because most are here only to spam their links and build some link juice. Although the benefit is negligible, they just need to show a chart to their clients that they made his link posted here and here and here to get their paycheck done.

  • madbilly madbilly
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    Hi @singhnsk, my suggestion wasn't to avoid genuine spam, but to avoid multiple people posting the same question repeatedly, or posting in the wrong forum (still happens a lot, and it's annoying as AFAICT we have no mods doing any tidying up - and I don't think that this is something that HMDLaura et al should be doing either, because admin is different from modding).

    Freshdesk had a search function which automatically looked for similar topics when typing a new topic title, I think that was somewhat better than what we have with Vanilla. Discourse also has this function, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a plugin for Vanilla to do it.

    Anyway, the new user could still be improved.

    Cheers 🙂

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