Introducing Nokia 7.2 - Page 6

Finally HMD has launched the Nokia 7.2 in India priced at INR 18,599 for the 4GB/64GB variant and INR 19,599 for the 6GB/64GB variant.

Introducing Nokia 7.2

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  • praveenp praveenp
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    Finally HMD has launched the Nokia 7.2 in India priced at INR 18,599 for the 4GB/64GB variant and INR 19,599 for the 6GB/64GB variant.
    Undoubtedly, a good offering considering the price and the hardware... Better option than any other Chinese brand... 
  • Kartik Gada Kartik Gada
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    wyk said:
    We want a Unique Nokia Experience and not google's beige ( >:) ) Android One. We don't have a wide range of pixels. Pixels have their unique features the biggest one being the gcam which google will never give to other manufacturer or make it the default camera app in Android One devices like Microsoft did with Nokia Camera in Windows 10 Mobile.
    U have the Nokia camera....all that patented slider UI...Puredisplay...Pureview Zeiss unique lens..  unique UX desig (2720) n ...unique stardom..  unique nokia story..  unique tweets of Juho 😆. What u want more...?!

    Yea i know expectations are quite high....but u know a lot of patents are still to recover from MS. 
    I own a Nokia 7 Plus, Nokia Camera is good but it has many issues which HMD never fixed. PureDisplay isn't on my phone and the only phone that comes with a true PureDisplay is the Nokia 7.1. Nokia 8.1 has a PureDisplabut it can't convert sdr to hdr and most users day that in HDR mode the phone just increases the colour temprature to a warmer tone. PureDisplay isn't a Nokia patent nor is it a patent of HMD Global. PureDisplay is just a trademark of HMD Global. The underlying tech is by another company named Pixelworks i guess. There's just one Nokia PureView devuce and that's Nokia 9 PureView ans I don't undersyamd how is that a real successor to the original PureViews. ZEISS is just a lens which definitely is of a good quality. But it cannot make your images come out good looking on its own. It needs a good sensor and a camera software that processes the images which we still don't have on our 1st gen ZEISS branded phones. The images come out good but we need a bug free camera app. Unique UX design? It is just KaiOS and this has nothing to do with feature phones. Unique Nokia story amd tweets from juho don't create a user experience that people want.

    Why do you want to recover patents from MS? Will they do anything extraordinary? I don't think so. 
  • wyk wyk
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    wyk said:
    We want a Unique Nokia Experience and not google's beige ( >:) ) Android One. We don't have a wide range of pixels. Pixels have their unique features the biggest one being the gcam which google will never give to other manufacturer or make it the default camera app in Android One devices like Microsoft did with Nokia Camera in Windows 10 Mobile.
    U have the Nokia camera....all that patented slider UI...Puredisplay...Pureview Zeiss unique lens..  unique UX desig (2720) n ...unique stardom..  unique nokia story..  unique tweets of Juho 😆. What u want more...?!

    Yea i know expectations are quite high....but u know a lot of patents are still to recover from MS. 
    I own a Nokia 7 Plus, Nokia Camera is good but it has many issues which HMD never fixed. PureDisplay isn't on my phone and the only phone that comes with a true PureDisplay is the Nokia 7.1. Nokia 8.1 has a PureDisplabut it can't convert sdr to hdr and most users day that in HDR mode the phone just increases the colour temprature to a warmer tone. PureDisplay isn't a Nokia patent nor is it a patent of HMD Global. PureDisplay is just a trademark of HMD Global. The underlying tech is by another company named Pixelworks i guess. There's just one Nokia PureView devuce and that's Nokia 9 PureView ans I don't undersyamd how is that a real successor to the original PureViews. ZEISS is just a lens which definitely is of a good quality. But it cannot make your images come out good looking on its own. It needs a good sensor and a camera software that processes the images which we still don't have on our 1st gen ZEISS branded phones. The images come out good but we need a bug free camera app. Unique UX design? It is just KaiOS and this has nothing to do with feature phones. Unique Nokia story amd tweets from juho don't create a user experience that people want.

    Why do you want to recover patents from MS? Will they do anything extraordinary? I don't think so. 
    I know .. all u said is unfortunate reality. But just tried to be little optimistic as being critic since long specially in this forum ..didn't change anything.
  • Kartik Gada Kartik Gada
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    Only online presence is going to hurt HMD Global even more.
    IDK where HMD Global is heading.

    Considering the camera fiasco of HMD Global with Nokia 9 (their so called flagship) and other cheaper mobiles,  I am not willing to buy their mobiles for camera only, if they cannot give better hardware or nokia experience (Android one is better implemented by Motorola).

    Android One of Nokia is butter chicken/paneer masala without salt.
    This time hmd global is focused on offline. The price of 7.2 is just 1k more than what i expected but i am disappointed to find out that the 6+128gb variant hasn't been launched in India. 

    I don't doubt the camera performance of Nokia. Now, don't say that it sucks in night or low light. To be honest how many images does someone click at night time? Very less. Nightsight and other similar features by others help in that case and Nokia brought a similar feature but that's just software working for you and doesn't make much difference depending on the camera hardware. Nokia with gcam ports can shoot good low light shots and even the native HDR works great sometimes. You just need to stay still. I have tried the promode of a vivo z1 pro and i can say that my 7 plus does perform better in low light if i apply exact same settings on both phones. 

    Coming to software side I am with you and I agree that Nokia needs to do something about it. I am a vegetarian so it more like paneer masala without salt for me 😜
  • AniketThakur AniketThakur
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    Only online presence is going to hurt HMD Global even more.
    IDK where HMD Global is heading.

    Considering the camera fiasco of HMD Global with Nokia 9 (their so called flagship) and other cheaper mobiles,  I am not willing to buy their mobiles for camera only, if they cannot give better hardware or nokia experience (Android one is better implemented by Motorola).

    Android One of Nokia is butter chicken/paneer masala without salt.
    Motorola gave 32bit android Oreo updated that too in 2019 🤣 (g5s+)
    Lenovo killed moto
  • AniketThakur AniketThakur
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    Only online presence is going to hurt HMD Global even more.
    IDK where HMD Global is heading.

    Considering the camera fiasco of HMD Global with Nokia 9 (their so called flagship) and other cheaper mobiles,  I am not willing to buy their mobiles for camera only, if they cannot give better hardware or nokia experience (Android one is better implemented by Motorola).

    Android One of Nokia is butter chicken/paneer masala without salt.
    This time hmd global is focused on offline. The price of 7.2 is just 1k more than what i expected but i am disappointed to find out that the 6+128gb variant hasn't been launched in India. 

    I don't doubt the camera performance of Nokia. Now, don't say that it sucks in night or low light. To be honest how many images does someone click at night time? Very less. Nightsight and other similar features by others help in that case and Nokia brought a similar feature but that's just software working for you and doesn't make much difference depending on the camera hardware. Nokia with gcam ports can shoot good low light shots and even the native HDR works great sometimes. You just need to stay still. I have tried the promode of a vivo z1 pro and i can say that my 7 plus does perform better in low light if i apply exact same settings on both phones. 

    Coming to software side I am with you and I agree that Nokia needs to do something about it. I am a vegetarian so it more like paneer masala without salt for me 😜
    That lacking of salt destroys the taste of paneer.
  • madbilly madbilly
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    I love the curry references @Himanshu1712 and @singhnsk ! You may know that I am a big fan of Indian/subcontinent food and cuisine, so my mouth is now watering! :D
    @wyk, thanks for speaking up in support of #beigeAndroid ;) I totally appreciate what you're saying and I agree it's great that people like you have a choice of beige at different prices, but I personally think the Nokia brand is wasted on this.
    I'm not sure which patents or other IP that MS still has that would be of interest to HMD. MS still have design patents and trademarks, but none of this is technology AFAIK, Nokia still has those patents (but I cannot be 100% certain) which it can licence to HMD if HMD will pay enough ;) MS may have the copyright on some hardware and software, but so far HMD have shown zero interest in replicating anything from Lumia (or earlier) except Pro mode.
    Anyway, thanks for being optimistic :smiley:
    @singhnsk, I'm sure that the 6/128GB version will come to India, but not for a few months.
    Cheers :)
  • Viccky Viccky
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    I salute people who still have interest in HMD phones. 🙏🙏

    #UselessHMD #BoycottHMD
  • madbilly madbilly
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    Hi @pekka rantala, before you leave can you please stop this #beigeAndroid obsession? Come on, open the #Ovi and show is the way to a #NokiaExperience :smiley:
    Cheers :D
  • Viccky Viccky
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    madbilly said:
    Hi @pekka rantala, before you leave can you please stop this #beigeAndroid obsession? Come on, open the #Ovi and show is the way to a #NokiaExperience :smiley:
    Cheers :D

    Let old Nokia things, experiences, etc. Rest in Peace. Donot expect any of those from HMD. 
    HMD can only ruin those Nokia experiences, they cant exalt them. 

    #UselessHMD #BoycottHMD
  • Kartik Gada Kartik Gada
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    Only online presence is going to hurt HMD Global even more.
    IDK where HMD Global is heading.

    Considering the camera fiasco of HMD Global with Nokia 9 (their so called flagship) and other cheaper mobiles,  I am not willing to buy their mobiles for camera only, if they cannot give better hardware or nokia experience (Android one is better implemented by Motorola).

    Android One of Nokia is butter chicken/paneer masala without salt.
    This time hmd global is focused on offline. The price of 7.2 is just 1k more than what i expected but i am disappointed to find out that the 6+128gb variant hasn't been launched in India. 

    I don't doubt the camera performance of Nokia. Now, don't say that it sucks in night or low light. To be honest how many images does someone click at night time? Very less. Nightsight and other similar features by others help in that case and Nokia brought a similar feature but that's just software working for you and doesn't make much difference depending on the camera hardware. Nokia with gcam ports can shoot good low light shots and even the native HDR works great sometimes. You just need to stay still. I have tried the promode of a vivo z1 pro and i can say that my 7 plus does perform better in low light if i apply exact same settings on both phones. 

    Coming to software side I am with you and I agree that Nokia needs to do something about it. I am a vegetarian so it more like paneer masala without salt for me 😜
    That lacking of salt destroys the taste of paneer.
    If it is about paneer. I can eat it without any masalas too. I like its texture when i chew it 🙈😅

    Ok yes and that's what i am saying too. We need something of our own. 🙂
  • Kartik Gada Kartik Gada
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    Viccky said:
    I salute people who still have interest in HMD phones. 🙏🙏

    #UselessHMD #BoycottHMD
    Why are you triggered today. 🙈😅

    Calm down 😁
  • singhnsk singhnsk
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    @madbilly But why after a few months? At this time they cannot afford to ask samsung to give them the 128GB EMMC (I'm not even asking for UFS which should be first thing for a camera centric device)? BTW, isn't Pekka gone? He shouldn't be here now that he is a CEO at somewhere else.

    I wasn't aware that you're such a foodie. You should visit India someday, because we have so many different foods and tastes. Even something with the same name will have a slight different preparation, recipe and taste.

  • madbilly madbilly
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    It's not clear if Pekka already left or not. The news earlier this year was that he was going to join the other company as CEO and I think that there was recently news that he just left now.
    After a few months because that seems to be the way HMD do it doesn't it? They release the lower spec variants first and then the others after a few months. At least, that was the case with the 8, and I think also the 6 and the 8.1... but I don't recall exactly and internet search is no help in confirming these historic notes.
    I visited India for work 4 and 5 years ago, I had a great time and wish I could go back but my job doesn't require it at the moment. I went to Mumbai, Pune and Ahmedabad, tasty times :yum:
  • wyk wyk
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    singhnsk said:

    Oh come on please! Nokia isn't a pixel, not even close:
    Basis:
    1. No bootloader unlock, even after voiding warranty.
    2. Not a developer friendly product, whereas pixel is all about it.
    3. Pixel camera will never come to Nokia.
    4. Pixel has a robust warranty coverage, Nokia has one of the worst.
    5. Pixel is the first to receive updates, Nokia isn't.
    6. Pixels get early internal builds of OSes, like all builds of Android Q, Nokia doesn't.

    Nokia never intended to make a Pixel, neither will google let anybody else to make one because when Google is into products business, they are also competing with HMD. They won't make their competitor stronger by giving them same access to all the software as the Pixels get. Moreover, ask google for the affordable pixels, please. Don't make another company to start cloning Pixels because Google isn't willing to make cheaper ones for you.
    Most google services are crap and ad sponsored anyways. That very fist google app has ads popping up on the feed, what more to expect? It's better if HMD builds a Nokia experience because Google experience already exists and so many companies offer that beige experience in some way or the other. And yeah I don't mind if HMD makes one or two beige experience products like how you like it (no offense, it's your choice, I respect it), but they should also make something that others want.
    I didn't ever say that Nokia is a pixel. On about bootloader unlock, development friendliness regular users should have less interest on these, Pixel camera works differently than Nokia's in HDR processing no doubt that makes huge different in composition but that iteration of Nokia is not so inferior in that class ( Shots on nokia prove that) , yea warranty & product class & time to time bug fixation is really an issue for nokia but monthly security updates are smooth while promised to have next iteration of android (a very few companies are doing that). Although I m not comparing. 
    Lastly I didnt find any google services to be hated....from Google cloud..home...translate....pay to mail....maps to AR... n yeaa thats current target for HMD. Simple clean android for day to day usage. Anyone can move otherwise according to market availability. 
  • A snapdragon 660 for 299€ (that is ₹23000). That's very good pricing. I'm sure you will conquer the market with that price. 
    Xiaomi gave snapdragon 660 in Rs 10000. :D:D
    Was being sarcastic.
  • wyk wyk
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    @Himanshu1712 never faced such issue with Google photos ...may b issue with parallel gallery app existence  ..  n what on earth u expect to be perfect!! there was a time Google cloud was horrible but....changes are coming. So dont find flaws of Google....search of Nokia's.
  • Kartik Gada Kartik Gada
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    wyk said:
    @Himanshu1712 never faced such issue with Google photos ...may b issue with parallel gallery app existence  ..  n what on earth u expect to be perfect!! there was a time Google cloud was horrible but....changes are coming. So dont find flaws of Google....search of Nokia's.
    Well you have used Google photos like regular user, in fact with in between version of google photos i was seeing 2 camera albums but I had only one camera folder in mobile. I never faced this issue with any other gallery app, whether parallel use or single use.

    I can find flaws in anything be it Google or HMD Global, so please don't tell me whether I need to find flaw or not.
    Google name so big, I don't expect substandard apps from them.

    If you give service, or sell product to anyone, that person will expect you to give perfect product or service without any flaws, unless and until you have mentioned it over product label.
    Do you have sd card installed? Because my photos app shows two camera albums too. One is of SD Card and another is of the internal storage. So maybe that's happening with you too. 
  • Viccky Viccky
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    Off topic

    -Arto was fired.
    -Pekka has left.

    Guess when will Juho Sarvikas be fired or leave the HMD Global?
  • Mohitd Mohitd
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    Does Nokia 7.2 support Google ARCore (augumented reality)? Also will it have the Google Night Camera feature?
  • singhnsk singhnsk
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    Viccky said:
    Off topic

    -Arto was fired.
    -Pekka has left.

    Guess when will Juho Sarvikas be fired or leave the HMD Global?

    Source about Arto, please?
    And Juho isn't going. He's likely one of the strongest forces behind the existence of hmd global.
  • singhnsk singhnsk
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    wyk said:
    singhnsk said:

    Oh come on please! Nokia isn't a pixel, not even close:
    Basis:
    1. No bootloader unlock, even after voiding warranty.
    2. Not a developer friendly product, whereas pixel is all about it.
    3. Pixel camera will never come to Nokia.
    4. Pixel has a robust warranty coverage, Nokia has one of the worst.
    5. Pixel is the first to receive updates, Nokia isn't.
    6. Pixels get early internal builds of OSes, like all builds of Android Q, Nokia doesn't.

    Nokia never intended to make a Pixel, neither will google let anybody else to make one because when Google is into products business, they are also competing with HMD. They won't make their competitor stronger by giving them same access to all the software as the Pixels get. Moreover, ask google for the affordable pixels, please. Don't make another company to start cloning Pixels because Google isn't willing to make cheaper ones for you.
    Most google services are crap and ad sponsored anyways. That very fist google app has ads popping up on the feed, what more to expect? It's better if HMD builds a Nokia experience because Google experience already exists and so many companies offer that beige experience in some way or the other. And yeah I don't mind if HMD makes one or two beige experience products like how you like it (no offense, it's your choice, I respect it), but they should also make something that others want.
    I didn't ever say that Nokia is a pixel. On about bootloader unlock, development friendliness regular users should have less interest on these, Pixel camera works differently than Nokia's in HDR processing no doubt that makes huge different in composition but that iteration of Nokia is not so inferior in that class ( Shots on nokia prove that) , yea warranty & product class & time to time bug fixation is really an issue for nokia but monthly security updates are smooth while promised to have next iteration of android (a very few companies are doing that). Although I m not comparing. 
    Lastly I didnt find any google services to be hated....from Google cloud..home...translate....pay to mail....maps to AR... n yeaa thats current target for HMD. Simple clean android for day to day usage. Anyone can move otherwise according to market availability. 

    Regular users should have less interest in unlocking, but Pixel's biggest user base must be these users only. Pixel is a developer's go to choice because Android decisions happen there and updates come faster than anybody else too.
    Nokia Camera software is inferior to the Google camera and I believe nobody else will deny that. The amount of AI that goes behind the processing of Google Camera is something probably no other software company can achieve.
    I thought usability and the quality makes an experience better, but you are sold by security updates? You want more updates than what even enterprises are looking for? To be very very frank, these security updates aren't securing anything except for a rare few ones. I don't know from where some people develop this feeling that these updates are super critical and those devices which don't have them will be hacked outright. My opinion is that Nokia is wasting resources and time on updating all these devices every month. Rather than this, they should have focused on improving the user experience and the performance of the product.
    Well, how often do you use Google Play Movies, Play Music, Play Books, Duo, etc? And mind you, all the apps you quoted are available on every other device. You name it. So, what special do you get in an Android One device other than a pretty beige experience and an illusion of being secure?
  • wyk wyk
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    Well you have used Google photos like regular user, in fact with in between version of google photos i was seeing 2 camera albums but I had only one camera folder in mobile. I never faced this issue with any other gallery app, whether parallel use or single use.
    no sir, I use google photos stereotyped...Raw (. nef)...Heif..  Heic. Nas devices sync too. AI type identifications n books arrangements too. Never faced messing issue. Yeaa a handful of bugs are present n limited support too for specific file types. But nice having multi device support.
  • Kartik Gada Kartik Gada
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    Only online presence is going to hurt HMD Global even more.
    IDK where HMD Global is heading.

    Considering the camera fiasco of HMD Global with Nokia 9 (their so called flagship) and other cheaper mobiles,  I am not willing to buy their mobiles for camera only, if they cannot give better hardware or nokia experience (Android one is better implemented by Motorola).

    Android One of Nokia is butter chicken/paneer masala without salt.
    This time hmd global is focused on offline. The price of 7.2 is just 1k more than what i expected but i am disappointed to find out that the 6+128gb variant hasn't been launched in India. 

    I don't doubt the camera performance of Nokia. Now, don't say that it sucks in night or low light. To be honest how many images does someone click at night time? Very less. Nightsight and other similar features by others help in that case and Nokia brought a similar feature but that's just software working for you and doesn't make much difference depending on the camera hardware. Nokia with gcam ports can shoot good low light shots and even the native HDR works great sometimes. You just need to stay still. I have tried the promode of a vivo z1 pro and i can say that my 7 plus does perform better in low light if i apply exact same settings on both phones. 

    Coming to software side I am with you and I agree that Nokia needs to do something about it. I am a vegetarian so it more like paneer masala without salt for me 😜
    Well I never used Nokia 7+,  I only used Nokia 7.1. And by the way if I were you I will not compare sub 20K mobile (Vivo Z1 Pro) with sub 30K mobile (Nokia 7 +)

    So let me summarize let downs of nokia 7.1 camera alone (as a mobile nokia 7.1 has so many)
    1. No pause button for video recording (even cheap mobile has pause button in interface).
    2. No dedicated night mode (I am not professional so I cannot set pro mode for different lighting condition). I do shoot in low lighting occasionally.
    3. After camera update (feature HMD Global added is to resize the frame size of bothie), if you record video in any format camera keeps re-focusing and results in blurry video. This update is by default included in pie and I cant uninstall and authorized care center is not downgrading to oreo.
    4. Auto HDR does not kick in, literally any time out of 24 hours. and when kept on always it takes almost 3-4 seconds more in low light to take pictures.
    5. I know to someone it doesn't matter but there are some people who uses beautification to get perfect pictures, you only get skin smoothing that too it will leave spots on face. No big eye, no thin cheeks etc etc. Why half baked features?
    6. Only one fps recording in slow motion video. That too I don't know what fps, no where on interface it is mentioned. And recording it indoors give poor quality video.

    All these are from mobile praised for having Zeiss lens, I haven't exaggerated any issue. All are based on daily usage.

    Well you yourself mentioned HMD Global didn't fix some of the issues with the mobile yet. Then what is the use of buying Nokia.

    I dont use gcam port and dont want to use, I paid to HMD Global for fuss free mobile usage. If HMD Global is not listening I will buy any other mobile, there are lot of other companies.

    In fact I am sick of Android all together (with all the issues) and most probably will buy iPhone next time.
    Why can't I compare the Nokia 7 plus that's more than a year old to a latest Vivo smartphone that's sub 20k? Don't people compare these Chinese devices to newly launched Nokia smartphones that are priced higher? At that time people say Nokia phones are compared to cheaper Chinese devices because they are overpriced. If that's the case then let's compare Nokia 8.1 to the Vivo z1 pro which again beats the later. A 16k phone vs a 15k phone which I think is fair to compare. And I am sure that the Nokia phone such as your Nokia 7.1 can outperform the Vivo Z1 pro too.

    1. Yes, we have been requesting this for so long now. Maybe the new camera update coming with Android 10 will bring it. 😊

    2. Yes, and they just introduced the night mode. It isn't on their older devices but HMD is just 2 years old. All these Chinese brands being so old don't have a photography centric camera app. Occasional shots can be taken with gcam for night photos or HDR auto does work in almost the same way as Gcam nightsight. In any night mode, you will have to hold your phone steady for a few seconds. No, one captures their occasional photos in extremely dark environments. Low Light means there has to be some light and most images are captured under artificial lighting conditions be it indoor at night or outside in low light. You don't have to be a professional to learn Pro Mode. It's simple, but the problem is you cannot get good low light pictures from it without a tripod.

    3. I tried recording video in Dual-Sight mode but didn't face the issue you mentioned on my Nokia 7 plus. Maybe, it is present on Nokia 7.1. A demo of that showing the problem would be helpful. :)

    4. HDR. In this mode, the camera captures a few images and then fuses them together. For example: one image is captured with +1 exposure, one with normal or 0 exposure and one with -1 exposure. All these images are then combined to bring out details in shadow areas as well as in overly bright areas. A similar thing is done by any night mode on the phone of any brand. So, even if you capture images in night mode you will have to stay still and hold your phone as stable as possible for a few seconds.

    5. I just don't care about this feature. I won't go deep for this point as I just cannot handle this nonsense feature introduced by Chinese brands. And no this isn't a half baked. It is enough. Instead of adding such useless features I would love HMD to focus on revamping their camera UI and improving the camera app further by adding more features.

    6. Yes, all this should be added. NIce feedback. :) There should be an option to select the fps while recording video. :)

    What's does ZEISS lens have to do with the bugs? In fact, the phones are able to capture some very nice looking images. Maybe, you couldn't capture with your Nokia 7.1 but are you able to capture better images with your new phone?

    Yes, HMD hasn't updated the camera app for a long time now and as usual, the phone will get new camera update with the next android version so just waiting for it. But some small camera bugs don't make it a bad phone and it isn't so bad that you say "What's the use of buying a Nokia?".

    Using a different app or not is your choice but if you get better images with an alternative camera app then why not try it. Most users try gcam and you are the 1st one who says you don't want to install gcam port just because you paid hmd global for a better camera experience.  You paid HMD Global for a Nokia 7.1 that comes with Android One (Father of Bugs and a most featureless android version with forced google everything) and you knew it before purchasing. Maybe you also bought it for two years of os updates and monthly security patches which do come regularly.

    So, you don't like android anymore be it from any device maker and you are blaming hmd global for bugs. Switch to iOS and share your experience once you switch.:)
  • wyk wyk
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    clarification regards SD660. 
  • AniketThakur AniketThakur
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    wyk said:


    clarification regards SD660. 
    Highly optimised software 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
  • madbilly madbilly
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    Viccky said:
    Off topic

    -Arto was fired.
    -Pekka has left.

    Guess when will Juho Sarvikas be fired or leave the HMD Global?
    So start a new topic then @viccky ;)
  • singhnsk singhnsk
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    @madbilly I don't understand the reasoning behind 6GB of RAM but keeping storage at 64. They should have kept 4+64 only since the extra RAM is not useful on hmd's phones as apps keep getting killed anyways 😂 I believe they didn't announce such a variant in Berlin. They made this probably because their Indian manufacturer cannot afford 128GB EMMC or hmd India cannot throw enough volume for the manufacturer to get some good prices.
  • Kartik Gada Kartik Gada
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    singhnsk said:
    or hmd India cannot throw enough volume for the manufacturer to get some good prices.
    Does this have to apply everytime. Is there such a rule? What do you mean by can't afford? It is clear that this 6gb ram want needed and the 128gb+6gb version had to be priced higher. So they could have just launched that. I don't get this can't afford to buy a certain component just because of low volume. It is just a tiny component and the variant with higher ram and storage is already on pre order in many countries. This rule of economics doesn't fit here imo. 
  • AniketThakur AniketThakur
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    Why can't I compare the Nokia 7 plus that's more than a year old to a latest Vivo smartphone that's sub 20k? Don't people compare these Chinese devices to newly launched Nokia smartphones that are priced higher? At that time people say Nokia phones are compared to cheaper Chinese devices because they are overpriced. If that's the case then let's compare Nokia 8.1 to the Vivo z1 pro which again beats the later. A 16k phone vs a 15k phone which I think is fair to compare. And I am sure that the Nokia phone such as your Nokia 7.1 can outperform the Vivo Z1 pro too.

    1. Yes, we have been requesting this for so long now. Maybe the new camera update coming with Android 10 will bring it. 😊

    2. Yes, and they just introduced the night mode. It isn't on their older devices but HMD is just 2 years old. All these Chinese brands being so old don't have a photography centric camera app. Occasional shots can be taken with gcam for night photos or HDR auto does work in almost the same way as Gcam nightsight. In any night mode, you will have to hold your phone steady for a few seconds. No, one captures their occasional photos in extremely dark environments. Low Light means there has to be some light and most images are captured under artificial lighting conditions be it indoor at night or outside in low light. You don't have to be a professional to learn Pro Mode. It's simple, but the problem is you cannot get good low light pictures from it without a tripod.

    3. I tried recording video in Dual-Sight mode but didn't face the issue you mentioned on my Nokia 7 plus. Maybe, it is present on Nokia 7.1. A demo of that showing the problem would be helpful. :)

    4. HDR. In this mode, the camera captures a few images and then fuses them together. For example: one image is captured with +1 exposure, one with normal or 0 exposure and one with -1 exposure. All these images are then combined to bring out details in shadow areas as well as in overly bright areas. A similar thing is done by any night mode on the phone of any brand. So, even if you capture images in night mode you will have to stay still and hold your phone as stable as possible for a few seconds.

    5. I just don't care about this feature. I won't go deep for this point as I just cannot handle this nonsense feature introduced by Chinese brands. And no this isn't a half baked. It is enough. Instead of adding such useless features I would love HMD to focus on revamping their camera UI and improving the camera app further by adding more features.

    6. Yes, all this should be added. NIce feedback. :) There should be an option to select the fps while recording video. :)

    What's does ZEISS lens have to do with the bugs? In fact, the phones are able to capture some very nice looking images. Maybe, you couldn't capture with your Nokia 7.1 but are you able to capture better images with your new phone?

    Yes, HMD hasn't updated the camera app for a long time now and as usual, the phone will get new camera update with the next android version so just waiting for it. But some small camera bugs don't make it a bad phone and it isn't so bad that you say "What's the use of buying a Nokia?".

    Using a different app or not is your choice but if you get better images with an alternative camera app then why not try it. Most users try gcam and you are the 1st one who says you don't want to install gcam port just because you paid hmd global for a better camera experience.  You paid HMD Global for a Nokia 7.1 that comes with Android One (Father of Bugs and a most featureless android version with forced google everything) and you knew it before purchasing. Maybe you also bought it for two years of os updates and monthly security patches which do come regularly.

    So, you don't like android anymore be it from any device maker and you are blaming hmd global for bugs. Switch to iOS and share your experience once you switch.:)
    Who am I to tell you to compare or not? If you will compare apple to oranges then I cant help you.

    Anyway if you comparing then let me check,
    does your nokia 7+ has snapdragon 712?
    does your nokia 7+ has 6.5 inch screen?
    does your nokia 7+ has punch hole front camera?
    does your nokia 7+ has 5000 mah battery?
    does your nokia 7+ has dedicated sd card slot?
    does your nokia 7+ has 128GB ROM?
    does your nokia 7+ has li-poly safe battery?

    I can continue if you want to.

    I wanted to try Android One, but never thought it will be boring and I will require to install additional app's for small small features which I was used to in samsung Note 3, Asus zenfone 3 and oppo's A37f.

    The reason I dont use GCAM mod is that when I click pictures from it, it doesn't save instantly in memory, and I cant check it from the camera app. I need to exit GCAM and then open Photos app.

    Google will not optimize android on behalf of HMD Global for Nokia devices, its job of HMD Global.
    When I purchased Nokia 7.1 on android oreo 8.1, it was sluggish.
    When I updated to android pie battery charging time increased to double.
    This issue exist on every Nokia 7.1

    This issue is not yet resolved. And when I gave unhappy reaction to HMD Global, they called me to know the reason, I told them. After that no calls, no sms and no fix.
    Is this called customer service? Whose fault is this?

    I have my reasons to scold HMD Global and I am blaming HMD Global for their issues only. You are lucky that you are not facing these issue and be thankful to God.
    When 7+ was launched no phone had 660 for that price range and 7+ offered the best. Now u get 710 not 712 for 15k. No phone had 5000mah battery then except moto e , punch hole display wasn't introduced , no phone gave 6.5 inch display (in that price range).

    Atleast post valid arguments. 
    It's ur fault that u expected custom rom features from android one device.
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