When Is The Fix For Nokia 8.1 Android 10 Coming? (Journo Query)

Primarily, I'm a Nokia customer - but a journalist as well.

When Is The Fix For Nokia 8.1 Android 10 Coming? (Journo Query)

Primarily, I'm a Nokia customer - but a journalist as well. Looking at the wave of major issues on Nokia 8.1 (Android 10), I decided to make a separate post on this.

I hopped in to the Nokia bandwagon just because I noticed that you guys were comitted to latest Android udpates (even though the pricing is high for the specs offered to the competition).

I'm definitely up to pay a premium to get the best Android experience in a budget. But, I would think twice if a major upgrade like Android 10 would make my smartphone "useless".

Nokia 8.1 is my daily driver there has been "significant" impact on the battery life and apps don't load up from the recent apps menu.

Either, let me know about the downgrade process or help me with an ETA for the patch to fix these issues.

Cheers!
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  • Rahber Ali Rahber Ali
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    Unless you bought the phone within 3 months of launch, it would not come under 'paying a premium'. This thing now costs less than 220 USD/ 15k INR.  By that very value metric, this is a bang on budget phone. That pricing can no way be called high anymore for the specs being offered. 

    To already be on Android 10 (however buggy) at that price point is a coup in itself for HMD. And let's for forget the million threads on the forum asking for the Android 10 rollout ASAP. Guess what, they heeded to it and rolled it out faster than anyone else, apart from Google and the One plus 7t. So the users here also partly to blame for this fiasco. 

    Bug fixes, updated builds take time and I am sure HMD are working on it as we speak. Let's not once again rush them into it only to see another balls-up. Early adopter of any tech always bear the brunt of this. 

    What is more intriguing is how the update is behaving on phones of different users. The only issues I had were the Bluetooth audio one (fixed) and choppy animations on the app switch screen, which also can be controlled by reducing the animations level to 0.5 in dev options. Surely there has to be another reason behind why the performance is so drastically different on different phones and that is what HMD should clarify first.


  • GTR12 said:
    Take your journalist **** and get lost, you're a no-name making up stories. 
    What do you mean by that lol? I'm using the device right now and replying via "My Phone" app.

    Consider I'm not a journalist (which I mentioned for a better response - for obvious reasons).
  • Rahber Ali Rahber Ali
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    Unless you bought the phone within 3 months of launch, it would not come under 'paying a premium'. This thing now costs less than 220 USD/ 15k INR.  By that very value metric, this is a bang on budget phone. That pricing can no way be called high anymore for the specs being offered. 

    To already be on Android 10 (however buggy) at that price point is a coup in itself for HMD. And let's for forget the million threads on the forum asking for the Android 10 rollout ASAP. Guess what, they heeded to it and rolled it out faster than anyone else, apart from Google and the One plus 7t. So the users here also partly to blame for this fiasco. 

    Bug fixes, updated builds take time and I am sure HMD are working on it as we speak. Let's not once again rush them into it only to see another balls-up. Early adopter of any tech always bear the brunt of this. 

    What is more intriguing is how the update is behaving on phones of different users. The only issues I had were the Bluetooth audio one (fixed) and choppy animations on the app switch screen, which also can be controlled by reducing the animations level to 0.5 in dev options. Surely there has to be another reason behind why the performance is so drastically different on different phones and that is what HMD should clarify first.


    FYI, I bought this at the launch price.

    And, paying any less doesn't mean that a customer shouldn't expect support (or response to their commitment of secure/fast Android updates). That's just BS.

    Also, blaming users it totally BS - they did share their roadmap for Android 10 rollout - so it's always the OEMs responsibility. (Customers will always demand faster updates no matter what phone/manufacturer it is - there is no escaping that).

    And, no this wasn't a case of early adopters (this was a stable update technically). While being a stable release, it has a wave of issues that are technically "too much" for some users.

    Of course, I'm aware of the fact that it takes time - but if they could share a planned schedule, that would help.



    Point me in the direction of one brand that instantaneously responds/fixes problems being faced by users. There are none. It always takes time and it's barely been any since the launch. Moreover, the adoption roadmap said Q4 2019. They could very well have released it on 31st December and still been inside their set timeline. 

    So cut HMD some slack and be patient. The only alternative is to jump ship, like a couple of users already have. 
  • Unless you bought the phone within 3 months of launch, it would not come under 'paying a premium'. This thing now costs less than 220 USD/ 15k INR.  By that very value metric, this is a bang on budget phone. That pricing can no way be called high anymore for the specs being offered. 

    To already be on Android 10 (however buggy) at that price point is a coup in itself for HMD. And let's for forget the million threads on the forum asking for the Android 10 rollout ASAP. Guess what, they heeded to it and rolled it out faster than anyone else, apart from Google and the One plus 7t. So the users here also partly to blame for this fiasco. 

    Bug fixes, updated builds take time and I am sure HMD are working on it as we speak. Let's not once again rush them into it only to see another balls-up. Early adopter of any tech always bear the brunt of this. 

    What is more intriguing is how the update is behaving on phones of different users. The only issues I had were the Bluetooth audio one (fixed) and choppy animations on the app switch screen, which also can be controlled by reducing the animations level to 0.5 in dev options. Surely there has to be another reason behind why the performance is so drastically different on different phones and that is what HMD should clarify first.


    FYI, I bought this at the launch price.

    And, paying any less doesn't mean that a customer shouldn't expect support (or response to their commitment of secure/fast Android updates). That's just BS.

    Also, blaming users it totally BS - they did share their roadmap for Android 10 rollout - so it's always the OEMs responsibility. (Customers will always demand faster updates no matter what phone/manufacturer it is - there is no escaping that).

    And, no this wasn't a case of early adopters (this was a stable update technically). While being a stable release, it has a wave of issues that are technically "too much" for some users.

    Of course, I'm aware of the fact that it takes time - but if they could share a planned schedule, that would help.



    Point me in the direction of one brand that instantaneously responds/fixes problems being faced by users. There are none. It always takes time and it's barely been any since the launch. Moreover, the adoption roadmap said Q4 2019. They could very well have released it on 31st December and still been inside their set timeline. 

    So cut HMD some slack and be patient. The only alternative is to jump ship, like a couple of users already have. 
    Well, I never said that I was impatient. I was looking for a better response on the issue.

    It was a "question" I put up in the forum - no need of a "discussion".

    Thanks for your input anyway. Cheers!
  • GTR12 GTR12
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    They will fix the issues when they have a solution, there's your "journalistic answer". 
  • PSHND PSHND
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    Even Pixels had a lot worse bugs when they got Android 10. One of the worst was that users were locked out of their phones. Typing in codes on lock screen would just return them back to it. That is useless phone.
    But this... This is actually pretty good for only a month difference in releases. Others (Huawei and Samsung in my experience) release OS updates a lot later and they still have bugs... A lot of bugs.
    Anyway, I did a factory reset right after upgrading and I can't complain. It's snappy, has great battery life, RAM management is ok but could be better... I mostly don't have any of those bugs mentioned on this forum. :smile:
  • Pratap Ray Pratap Ray
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    Primarily, I'm a Nokia customer - but a journalist as well. Looking at the wave of major issues on Nokia 8.1 (Android 10), I decided to make a separate post on this.

    I hopped in to the Nokia bandwagon just because I noticed that you guys were comitted to latest Android udpates (even though the pricing is high for the specs offered to the competition).

    I'm definitely up to pay a premium to get the best Android experience in a budget. But, I would think twice if a major upgrade like Android 10 would make my smartphone "useless".

    Nokia 8.1 is my daily driver there has been "significant" impact on the battery life and apps don't load up from the recent apps menu.

    Either, let me know about the downgrade process or help me with an ETA for the patch to fix these issues.

    Cheers!
    Me too .. 
  • Sunil Jena Sunil Jena
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    After updated to 10 my phone works as usual with no issue then i had factory reset and new problem rises like
    Finger print vibration happen after haptic off
    Evenwell apps return back in system apps
    Android setup bug
    Otherwise everything runs well
  • GTR12 GTR12
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    GTR12 said:
    They will fix the issues when they have a solution, there's your "journalistic answer". 
    It looks like you have a trigger problem with the keyword "journalist". Best guy I've ever met in a forum. Take care!
    People here demanded Android 10 ASAP, so Nokia obliged without any internal testing and real world testing. 

    And now you and others demand bug fixes and a roll back to Pie immediately and to top it off, you want an ETA for a bug fix patch. 

    Nokia can't catch a break 🙄
  • Arpit09 Arpit09
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    GTR12 said:
    GTR12 said:
    They will fix the issues when they have a solution, there's your "journalistic answer". 
    It looks like you have a trigger problem with the keyword "journalist". Best guy I've ever met in a forum. Take care!
    People here demanded Android 10 ASAP, so Nokia obliged without any internal testing and real world testing. 

    And now you and others demand bug fixes and a roll back to Pie immediately and to top it off, you want an ETA for a bug fix patch. 

    Nokia can't catch a break 🙄
    No doubt people here demanded for Android 10 but its the OEM who have to check for the bugs and give the update at Q4. 
    "Nokia obliged without any internal testing and real world testing"
    you are saying as you were there at Nokia right ?
    Rather than giving a bugy OS they should have taken there time and then give people the update.
  • Even during Beta testing user's were registering the issues,even then HMD released the A10 in a Raw form.
  • GTR12 GTR12
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    Arpit09 said:
    No doubt people here demanded for Android 10 but its the OEM who have to check for the bugs and give the update at Q4. 
    "Nokia obliged without any internal testing and real world testing"
    you are saying as you were there at Nokia right ?
    Rather than giving a bugy OS they should have taken there time and then give people the update.
    I like what Nokia did, you only learn a valuable lesson by making a mistake. People might learn to wait now, instead of demanding things. 

    The longer that it took, the more impatient people would be and there would be even more begging and spam. I wanted the update on the 31st of December, but nope, we got a buggy broken OS because of people here. 

    Don't believe me? Look at my posts pre-Android 10.
  • PSHND said:
    Even Pixels had a lot worse bugs when they got Android 10. One of the worst was that users were locked out of their phones. Typing in codes on lock screen would just return them back to it. That is useless phone.
    But this... This is actually pretty good for only a month difference in releases. Others (Huawei and Samsung in my experience) release OS updates a lot later and they still have bugs... A lot of bugs.
    Anyway, I did a factory reset right after upgrading and I can't complain. It's snappy, has great battery life, RAM management is ok but could be better... I mostly don't have any of those bugs mentioned on this forum. :smile:
    Should we factory reset after updating to 10?
    Will it become snappy & battery drain issues get solved?
    If so please suggest. Thanks
  • PSHND PSHND
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    PSHND said:
    Even Pixels had a lot worse bugs when they got Android 10. One of the worst was that users were locked out of their phones. Typing in codes on lock screen would just return them back to it. That is useless phone.
    But this... This is actually pretty good for only a month difference in releases. Others (Huawei and Samsung in my experience) release OS updates a lot later and they still have bugs... A lot of bugs.
    Anyway, I did a factory reset right after upgrading and I can't complain. It's snappy, has great battery life, RAM management is ok but could be better... I mostly don't have any of those bugs mentioned on this forum. :smile:
    Should we factory reset after updating to 10?
    Will it become snappy & battery drain issues get solved?
    If so please suggest. Thanks
    I can't tell you for sure as, as I said, I did it right after the upgrade so I can't say if there would be any difference if I didn't. But it's worth a try as even though it's not mandatory to do factory reset after update it is recommended for big OS updates like this one. 
  • akshay kumar akshay kumar
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    As of November 24th, still there's no fix for Android 10.

  • RonH RonH
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    I have the latest Android 10 with all available updates and the phone is excellent. OK the fingerprint is a bit iffy but this is common with many other phones.

    Its my guess that many 1000's of user experiences are just as mine. So could the issues a few of you seem to be having be due to your actions to 'specialise' how the phone operates and/or some unusual non Play Store installed apps..

  • Arpit09 Arpit09
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    Lets wait..........................ZZZZZZzzzzz

  • MrBelter MrBelter
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    It certainly helped when i factory reset mine to give to my wife but it didn't fix everything that's for sure.

  • saptarshi99 saptarshi99
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    This is the response till now

  • Lars-Åke Aronsson Lars-Åke Aronsson
    ✭✭  /  edited November 28
    Will the Android 10 new feature Audio Streaming for Hearing Aid (ASHA) be enabled on Nokia 8.1 ? This feature require Bluetooth 5 which Nokia 8.1 is equipped with:
    https://source.android.com/devices/bluetoth/asha This would enable bluetooth low energy streaming from phone to hearing aids. I have the first hearing aids supporting this feature Resound Linx Quattro. Eagerly waiting for ASHA to be enabled on Nokia 8.1 Android 10. Hearing aid users can be a big market for Nokia previously mainly covered by Apple.
  • Farmers Farmers
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    Actually, your comment is quite inaccurate as Nokia DID have a Beta program for Android 10.

  • madbilly madbilly
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    Hi @Farmers,

    We need to clarify our definitions here. What you are referring to is the Android Developer Programme (https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/developer) which in HMD/Nokia language is not a beta programme because the beta programmes are part of the Beta Labs (https://www.nokia.com/phones/betalabs).

    ADP and Beta Labs are different things, although tbh neither seem very effective at removing bugs!

    Cheers 🙂

  • Hi sir i love nokia i am nokia lover sir I won't give me Nokia 8.1 please phone sar you have provided to the Nokia 8.1

  • Please tell me please sir

  • Arun Rathi Arun Rathi
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    Hello Guys, I am new to Nokia Android phones. Previously I have used Nokia windows phone up to the last flagship Lumia 950 which is still working well for me. But being a Nokia fan, I recently purchased Nokia 8.1 which is running Android 9 with April, 2019 security patch installed out of the box. Till Nokia removes bugs from android 10 for this device , I want to keep sticking to android pie but I want to install android pie security update latest up to July, 2019 which is also a maintenance update by Nokia. But problem is that checking for update within the device leads to installation of buggy android 10. I tried to search for update files on the internet so that I can install them manually but I am unable to apply the update via sd card. What should I do?

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