Introducing Nokia 8.3 5G

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  • er.photo
    er.photo ✭✭
    edited April 2020

    Why all of your comments in posts looks spammy. Use home quarantine time for something useful. If you don't like nokia then its ur choice. But brother don't spam forum with ur pitty comments. Forum is full of your pointless and negative cmnts. There is something fish.

    @java

    [edited by super user]

  • JAVA
    JAVA ✭✭✭

    😅hello there I am staying with Nokia because I choosed it ok. So its my responsibility to tell if they done anything wrong. Nokia official announced that Nokia 9. 8(sirocco ) This are waterproof smartphone IP67 or 68. So listen well guys 8.3 is going to start from price tag 30k (Nokia mob suggests ) Thats price tag

    We are missing waterproof

    A fast charging Qualcomm quick charge

    A dolby sound

    At least A 90Hz display?

    Advanced camera application

    And on the bright side

    A stylized design

    A good chips set (if price around 30k)

    Upgraded camera

    Android 10 out of box

  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User

    Hi Java,

    The phone won't be released for a few months (apparently it will available in July, in Europe) so until then we don't know the specs for certain, things can change.

    9V/2A charging is fast charging. Qualcomm QuickCharge will soon not exist any more because Android is insisting that all phones it certifies for Play Store support USB-PD. USB-PD is the open fast charging standard, so QuickCharge and most other proprietary methods will disappear.

    We saw in the launch that it will have a camera app with lots of options. That is not basic, therefore it is advanced.

    Well done for pointing out the good points. You should add the massive list of 5G frequency support to that list.

    Cheers 🙂

  • hey hmd i am a biggest fan of nokia ever. new nokia 8.3 looks awasome.please release this phone in india under rs.25000

  • HMD Global should price Nokia 8.3 wisely in India so that it gets good market share. This phone is a beast phone 🔥 and it is a chance for Nokia to regain its "long-lost legacy"... 😜

  • SirFaceFone
    SirFaceFone ✭✭✭✭

    Personally not a fan of the ad video (or most of the new Nokia ads tbh). They should've used real, memorable songs or their own tunes like what Nokia used to do. See the 925


    or 820

    The 8.3 deserved more than generic ad music #123

  • Doesn't HMD know about OIS? Why don't they put it in €599 phone? #WhySarvikasWhy

  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User

    Hi @BootloaderUnlockWhen,

    Nice to see you back here 😃

    What makes you think the recent launch videos didn't have music composed specially? Can you do a Shazam style search for matching music from elsewhere?

    Even if it is generic, I think the music for the 8.3 was quite good, especially the stormy skies feeling to it.

    Okay, not as good as the 925 video music but that company had a much bigger budget...

    Good point about the camera-centric focus of this phone, or not. It is called a PureView, but I don't think that camera set up is particularly good - where is the telephoto camera? Why is the macro camera such low resolution?

    Still, it would be nice to see the two stage camera button back. For those that want this and other photography focused gizmos I think the only place to look is Sony...

    Cheers 🙂

  • JAVA
    JAVA ✭✭✭

    @madbilly here he come again Well I have to tell you about one thing Community is not Only For saying good about the product . It can also used to improve product one whenever a member post something HMD missed you come and save them why are you loving Nokia or what? Pardon me I am wrong ( forgive me also

  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User

    Hi @JAVA,

    You're right, we can criticise here as well as praise, but baseless criticism isn't much use.

    Regarding the 5G capabilities of this future phone, I found this interesting article from CNet which gives a bit more background and qualitative comparison including why the 8.3 5G is special compared to other 5G phones but why it might not be special for long:

    Cheers 🙂

  • JAVA
    JAVA ✭✭✭

    @madbilly I am aware of that Nokia first smartphones who support more Network than others (5G) and. Nokia is missing here 60HZ or 90 Hz display I presume?

  • SirFaceFone
    SirFaceFone ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2020

    Thanks! Nice to be back lol


    As for the ad, Idk. it's a relatively better ad than before for sure, but it just doesn't have that 'oomph' Nokia ads used to have. Perhaps it's the length-30 seconds is awfully short. Or maybe it's because there's only one video for the device, which (as an outsider) makes it look like there's a lack of passion when they made these devices. Where are the detailed videos and blogs about the cameras, design, interview with the engineer(s) and designer(s), etc etc.

  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User

    Since 2017 HMD have gone downhill with their promotions for phones. In the early days they had loads of vids, but now, almost nothing. Maybe it's a budget problem, maybe they have "social media consultants" who tell them that OEM-videos don't get enough reach and they pour their resources into supporting streamers and vloggers instead.

    Cheers 🙂

  • Same features like same quad camera , same pixel work chip for SDR to HDR, same SoC, same 5G at 399€, nice display compare to Nokia 8.3 5G.

    That's story of TCL 10 5G. All know Nokia 8.3 5G is overpriced.

    Thanks 🙂

  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User

    We don't know how many frequency bands the 8.3 5G support because that hasn't been revealed yet, AFAIK.

    But it's a good comparison, it is making the 8.3 5G look even more overpriced than it already did.

    Cheers 🙂

  • singhnsk
    singhnsk Super User

    With due respect, I don't think that the TCL's 5G phone is comparable to the Nokia 8.3. It cuts corners in so many areas. The Nokia 8.3 is a better phone outright. There's a reason why the TCL 10 Pro costs way more than the TCL 10 5G.

    Plus let's just stop comparing the prices. The other day Oppo launched a phone with same price as the Nokia 8.3. That is more identical to the 8.3 with overlapping specifications. Also, companies choose their price, let them.

    The specs alone on the paper don't speak the whole story. As XDA notes, the TCL's 5G phone will be updated to Android 11 (where the support will end) and runs on the TCL's Android skin which looks like Android 8. Aren't they living a bit too much in the past that their skin still resembles Android 8? Moreover, Nokia's one more year of software support, better build, wider service & support network, OZO audio, ZEISS optics, wider 5G support and a higher brand value should allow it to ask that higher price.

    If TCL had the smartphone selling power in its brand, then they wouldn't have earlier licensed the Blackberry brand to make phones. Sure, their new launches are great at the asking price, but that's for a company trying to make a mark in the Mobile market.

  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User

    I transcribe here what is written in the launch video from a few weeks ago, I can't find it in any documentation anywhere:

    • n78, n40, n41/38, n7, n1, n2, n3, n66, n8, n5, n28, n71
    • Apparently, I read it somewhere, that the 8.3 5G can support mmWave bands as well but these will only be enabled on carrier-specific versions, if HMD get any partnership deals that is

    Here's a screenshot from the video:

    Obviously, as the competitors shown only go up to February 2020 they haven't included the other 765G phones. Also, they may classify competitors as phones with a similar price, which excludes the other 765G phones we've seen released recently.

    For comparison, here's what it says about the TCL 10 5G frequency band support:

    • 5G Bands: T790Y: n1/3/8/28/77/78, T790H: n77/78
    • 4G LTE Bands: T790Y: B1/3/5/7/8/20/28/32/38/40/41, T790H: B1/3/8 (SBM)/18/19(NTT)/26/28/41/42
    • 3G Bands: T790Y: UMTS B1/2/4/5/8, T790H: UMTS B1/6/8/19
    • 2G Quadband: GSM 850/900/1800/1900

    There are two variants shown, the T790Y and T790H. So the 8.3 5G will support more bands than both of them put together!

    Still, we need written info from HMD about which bands are supported because there is a lot of detail missing at the moment.

    Cheers 🙂

  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User

    TCL also licence the Alcatel brand from Nokia 😉

  • singhnsk
    singhnsk Super User

    Ah yeah, I knew they produce Alcatel phones too, but I wasn't sure if that thing was a part of the deal when Nokia acquired Alcatel-Lucent's networking business. Thanks for the heads up 🤝

  • singhnsk
    singhnsk Super User

    As a brand? Yes. Madbilly just revealed to us that TCL licenses the Alcatel brand from Nokia to use on the phones.

    As a company? Nope, IIRC. Nokia absorbed all operators and staff within Nokia Networks and stopped running Alcatel as a separate company.

  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User

    TCL started licensing the Alcatel brand a long time before Nokia bought Alcatel. Like Nokia, Alcatel had given up on the phones business.

    Cheers 🙂

  • madbilly
    madbilly Super User

    Hi all,

    I got confirmation of frequency bands from HMD, posted here:

    Cheers 🙂

  • @madbilly actually the model on that shelve you mentioned was actually the Nokia 5.3, now the 8.3's model is actually on the desk, you can see it's dual high cri flash, just wanted to point that out.

    🙂

  • Kartik Gada
    Kartik Gada Super User

    Nice find. You have eagle eyes hehe. Also, that glossy back is of the Nokia 8.3 5G.