April MR + SP (Not officially out)

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  • Vivek J
    Vivek J ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020

    I can confirm that ever since April SR was installed, either that or some other coincidence has caused network reception to be extremely poor. Earlier I was able to take calls for 1-2 hrs continuously without drops. Now it has become horrible, with network disappearing sometimes, and in 1 hr call, it will drop atleast 4-5 times. Clearing caches of carrier services and all didn't help either.

    So already the sound bug stops me from using my company app for conference calls over a data network, now I am bothered by frequent drops on dialled calls. The user experience is getting from bad to worse. 🙄

  • jbatista
    jbatista ✭✭✭

    They are afraid of doing a AOSP rebase... xD

  • Rishi vora
    Rishi vora ✭✭✭

    @AniketThakur What happened to maintenance update?

    Are all bugs fixed?

  • AniketThakur
    AniketThakur ✭✭✭✭

    Nope , all bugs aren't fixed. Just sound issues. I don't why they are not releasing the MR

  • jbatista
    jbatista ✭✭✭

    Damn guys, just do the freaking AOSP rebase already...


    Yes, it's going to hurt and take some time but this is getting ridiculous...

  • Rishi vora
    Rishi vora ✭✭✭

    What does AOSP rebase may change?

    What benifits exactly it has?

  • jbatista
    jbatista ✭✭✭

    I suspect that they are running around in circles trying to fix, or working around, something that probably was already fixed. Also, if not mistaken, a few posts back someone mentioned that there were some upstream driver/firmware fixes done by Qualcomm and those haven't been included yet.

    Remember guys, this is supposed to be a Android One phone. The only think that they should do is to grab the AOSP code, add the drivers and Google Services.

  • spulci
    spulci ✭✭✭

    Let me share my thoughts. Wikipedia Nokia 7 Plus page tells that the launch date was March 2018.

    We're now in May 2020......has Nokia 7 Plus reached the end of support for Maintenance Release? For sure we'll have one more year of security patches.

    But we've got high chances that the phone will stay unpatched with a bugged Android 10 image.

    I'ts clear that a new build with an AOSP update-rebase would have required a lot less than 6 months.

    Btw they introduced some major bugs during the support phase...they should at least be clear and release one more MR SOON.

    #keepsgettingbetter

  • spulci
    spulci ✭✭✭

    Someone stated that the audio crackling bug that some of us are experiencing with the main speaker (for example during a WhatsApp audio message) is due to the fact that they used a bugged code base coming from AOSP. That bug has been patched since a few months on the AOSP code base...so the effort to have a new build with this bug patched it's quite reduced (at least this bug is not directly produced by Nokia engineers themselves).

  • jbatista
    jbatista ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020

    It's not hard to make a good phone but is very easy to f**k-up a reasonable one.

    What happened with the 7 Plus was simply a s**t*y management job. The only thing that you had to do was to grab the AOSP code, maintain it up to date and strap the Google Apps to it. That's it.

    People who buy Android One phones do, and if they don't they're doing it wrong, only care about one thing, Software Updates.

    I don't care about a fancy camera app with tons of features, face unlock without the proper hardware is just stupid and then there was that Evenwell thing was just a shitshow. If I want anything else other than up to date software I have all the manufactures to choose from.

    Couple that with them having a ****-ton of models, most of them with no justifiable differences, and you get to todays situation.

    And, let's be honest, Nokia isn't the only one at fault here. Google is also to blame for not enforcing an up-to-date code base and we'll be the next ones if we buy another device from Nokia expecting them to go by the Android One philosophy.

    For me this was the first, and last, Nokia branded device I'll own...

  • I'm confused, is the sound supposed to be fixed or not? Because I still can't make calls on my phone because of a crackly mic and sound. I can record video just fine and it sounds great.

    To think of the praise this phone was getting when it was launched. So many websites praising it, and also a LOT of YouTube reviews saying how good it was.

    I've been looking at new phones but was really hoping for a fix for this, but it has been an age now.

  • spulci
    spulci ✭✭✭

    Believe it or not....they're reading....they're silent for some marketing reasons (maybe it's their policy not to comment technical issues in first person)...but I'm sure they are reading.

    And they're worried....ignoring a negative mood for a long time is a good chance to ruin a business.

    For me #keepsgettinbetter is just pure marketing. Invest on software seriously and enjoy praise on social channel.

    I've got 3 Nokia HMD phones in last couple of years....next one WILL NOT BE Hmd with this BAD software support.

  • Vivek J
    Vivek J ✭✭✭

    I got mislead by that praise. All those people need to reimburse us for misleading praises for this pos.

  • Vivek J
    Vivek J ✭✭✭

    The only selling point was Android One with regular presumably relatively bug free updates. They have messed that up. So now there is nothing appealing about Android One program and HMD.

    I really hope that their sales keep falling 🙏 and prospective new buyers are wary of buying a Nokia smartphone.

    I would definitely not consider them again.

  • prasad134
    prasad134 ✭✭✭

    Well no one is going to recommend a Nokia phone to anyone again...if their 2018 best selling Nokia 7 Plus is plagued with all these bugs...i dont expect them to keep all their vast slew of phones bug-free at all...

    This phone was the best with Oreo...no bugs at all...really enjoyed the phone a lot...and then started the downfall...

    Well i will just request HMD if they are reading... atleast give few good MRs that are left in this phone's update cycle and end this on a sweet note😊😊

  • Rishi vora
    Rishi vora ✭✭✭

    Yes yes. Totally agree. Just finally leave us with something good. We're not going to recommend Nokia for sure but atleast give us the service for those 26000 we paid. I'm fed up now. Next time left with just 2 options, either pixel a version or one plus.

  • jbatista
    jbatista ✭✭✭

    Speaking of recommendations, does anyone still get those "Will you recommend Nokia to family and friends" pop-ups?

    I think I've been put on the blacklist for those 'cause every time that they popped-up I would reply always with NO...

    Even Google is messing up the stock android experience with the pixel line and guess why? Other features other than stock, reliable software. In my opinion, the last good phone that they released was the Nexus 5.

    Not familiar with the OnePlus side of things but I know a few people that have one and keep buying them so they should be doing something right...

  • diogenes
    diogenes ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020

    NEXUS 4 and 5 really were great... I loved both of them... Google should have get that going this way... And LG really made great hardware...

  • Vivek J
    Vivek J ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020

    I also used to get that feedback promots and I gave very good criticism. No longer now. I wonder why.


    By the way I would really like to see who keeps religiously disagreeing with comments criticizing HMD. They really need to get their head out of HMDs ****. 😂

  • Tejas01
    Tejas01 ✭✭✭

    Some Bhakt I believe... A fanboy.😜

    HMD/Nokia cannot even take constructive criticism. Someone put my post under moderation for using a single word (k1l) while commenting, which I tried to edit and voilà, it just disappeared.

    They are thinking of becoming a major player in the market while taking zero feedback from the community. Good luck with that..😂😂

  • praveenp
    praveenp ✭✭✭✭

    Though I am not getting those prompts now... But I am do getting System Update Available prompt multiple times every day on my Nokia 9 PureView...😂

    It has been nearly a month now that Android 10 was released for 9PV in India... But I have not updated it... JUST BECAUSE I AM HAPPY WITH THE STABLE ANDROID 9 (though still with certain shortcomings) AND HAVE ALREADY TASTED WHAT ANDROID 10 DID TO MY NOKIA 7 PLUS (which I had already stopped using as a primary device since February, as taking calls on that was a torture to ears)...

    What can be worse for a brand's reputation that it's consumers are not even willing to update their devices to a newer version of Android just because they know the brand does not even care of giving a bug-free update.

  • Rishi vora
    Rishi vora ✭✭✭

    Exactly man. My ears. I can feel you. That part of hardware is just baddd

  • Basically Stock android or Android One is useless now.

    Same things go to any stock android device like Asus Max Pro series they have stock Android but they are on Android 9 because they also have cracking sound issue in android 10 beta build since Jan,2020. They didn't release android 10 because of bugs in beta. They released May security patch devices. They are unable to solve problems with android 10. Same like hmd.

    Now point I think stock android is useless. OneUI, Oxygen OS, Realme OS ( Color OS ), ZenUI and ad-less MIUI is best because they have more stable android as compared to stock android.

    Thanks 🙂

    Some honest feedback for HMD team

    Use open ( public ) beta testing

    Hope @HMDLaura listen and forward it to Juho.

  • praveenp
    praveenp ✭✭✭✭

    Ya I know. But that's where individual brands have to do work. They have quality developers who are proficient in their fields. If new Chinese brands like Xiaomi, Vivo, etc, can release a bug-free update, then we can expect the same from well-established brands too, who have their own legacy in the smartphone market since many years.