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I just miss Symbian.
😪
Still, I want a feature phone to chat with those keypads with lying down on my couch. Those days were special. I think it's essential to back Symbian on upcoming feature phones to keep the market alive. Because besides smartphones, only the Symbian OS can make activate the feature phones market. But the truth is HMD just uses Mediatek on feature phones, and MediaTek can't handle java 2.1 properly. I think it couldn't handle Symbian, but if HMD tries to come up with snapdragon and Symbian on their feature phones section, then it'll be blown situation in feature phones market. People will repurchase those phones.
Series 40 was on prime during 5310 XpressMusic days.. superb animation with awesome short-cuts and also way mature and stable to use. I got Nokia 7900 Prism with me and also Nokia 5310 XpressMusic. Both are making my days wow with them♥️
Hope Nokia can bring back series 40.. Also I am using Nokia 5310 2020. This phone is really good for loudspeaker music and also 🔋
But it has more to catch up.. when I place it next to my old 5310. It feels very cheap amlnd immature. Also no themes.. again poor app support..
Now @HMDLaura please make it right.. Don't brink back Nokia phone with new OS..we prefer The Old OS. Who had everything think on there own.. A great music app. A gallery app with tone of functions.. But Nokia os nothing like that. Bring atleast one model with symbian os and old specifications. I can assure that you are not going to @madbilly Disappointed..@mad
This CFW is "half-official" because those guys have been making it together with the help of ex-Nokia developers who worked on the construction of that phone. It sounds amazing, does not it? Soon a newer version of this firmware will be published.
As well as Delight, by the way. Next week, Nokia 808 PureView's firmware will get an incredible Delight 1.8 unofficial update, some fixes of which make this phone far more usable in 2020!
Follow allaboutsymbian.com so that not to miss these great news.
Series 40 is a closed-source OS. I do not think it will ever get updated or used as a basis again (not speaking about possible enthusiasts' efforts, of course).
Sure. If it is not coming from @HMDLaura on new models for whatever reasons, then it will have to come from @Max the Doctor and other fans on classical models who are indifferent to "her" ;)
Tertium non datur.
You know, if you recall other old OS such as Bada or Palm, they died themselves on account of inability to concur more featured and usable analogues, and this is quite normal. But Symbian, it did not die itself. And this is not that good. So, some people are also motivated by this unfair outcome, and they use old Nokia phones on purpose.
@Max the Doctor We can bring her back. But we have to try it right? @sivabharani Can help as a lot. He founded that there is still developers support symbian os in Russia.. may there is still a chance a force. And My Nokia C2 is 9 years old. Still have a great music player and gallery apk. Even New 5310 can't beat it.@madbilly
If you want to get a phone running a "modern" version of Symbian then get one which will run the Delight firmware or Symbian World. The C2 didn't run Symbian though, it ran S40, so you'll need to find something else for proper Symbian (not just a similar UI).
@Max the Doctor well done on getting Delight 1.8 out! Did you also manage to get it our for the other Symbian^3 and later phones as well?
Hey java. For that too happen you need to buy it from Microsoft. They acquired all their software and hardware divisions in past. They have the Symbian or S40 source codes.
Hi at all, I read all comments and I hope that symbian os reborns, **** NOT absolutely for the feature phones, which are too limited in hardware and consequently in software. The J2ME support in symbian is totally optional, and the principal languages that are used for programs are the original symbian C++ and Qt, which are more powerful, for example for accessing the various hardware, that isn't supported on feature phones, older or newer, isn't different. I like think that, if symbian come back, It would be necessary to compete with android and iOS, and the principal reason is the lightness of symbian, also for modern hardware, that promise a more durability of modern battery. For example I have tried to attach on my N8 the 2500 mAh battery of Nexus 5, and with medium-high use of the phone, i've arrived from 100% to 20% in two and half weeks. And I said all, with this anecdote. And, last thing, i'm not very good to develop a application for s60 or s80, but i'm on good road.
@JAVA Still, you're trying to bring it back. But it's like officials of HMD global don't want to invest more on a feature phone. They just buy MTK chipsets to give them a fresh UI and that's it. They even don't want to invest in R&D of their smartphone lineup. That's why they just rely on google one project for their smartphone line up.
Well is not about android one so HMD can't rely on Google for feature phones. And Nokia don't had any resources in the past years. But Nokia nokia have more funding.and Nokia is coming back we can see. That in 22sep🤩🤩 hope they don't going to be disappointed
we need a platform for joining efforts and for finding specialists
We need to contact phone manufacturers in China (where else) and find out if they can make a NEW phone for the required characteristics, on which Symbian can be installed
Make the Symbian fork and develop an OS with a new name (e.g. Bian) like open source system. The new OS will already be adapted for the NEW hardware.
What about money? I do not know exactly. I think if there are a lot of pre-orders and sales, then we can make money on the app store.
Will we be able to find developers and other specialists for the first OS prototype and hardware? I think yes, if the old Symbian developers find out about serious plans to re-release the OS and phones. This requires a platform with all information and discussions.
I do not think that the new Symbian should be made a competitor to Android. The limit of its capabilities is video calls. I said, I have N-Gage QD with 104 mHz, 16 mb Ram. It works very fast (with video and 3D games) because screen 176x220px and 4096 colors.
A new phone should not have a cool screen. Chats, contacts, pays, music, smart-fit watch, BT headphones, WIFI, 4G modem, GPS, emails don't need in color screen. Its all good work on e-ink display. Its powersafe solution and work with week processor.
Unfortunately I only fullstack web developer and software architect. I cant create OS 😥
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@JAVA , you are just awesome.
I just came up through all comments here and opened an account to comment.
I just miss Symbian.
😪
Still, I want a feature phone to chat with those keypads with lying down on my couch. Those days were special. I think it's essential to back Symbian on upcoming feature phones to keep the market alive. Because besides smartphones, only the Symbian OS can make activate the feature phones market. But the truth is HMD just uses Mediatek on feature phones, and MediaTek can't handle java 2.1 properly. I think it couldn't handle Symbian, but if HMD tries to come up with snapdragon and Symbian on their feature phones section, then it'll be blown situation in feature phones market. People will repurchase those phones.
Here is my answer to all who said she was died....she still alive we can bring her back@madbilly Let's start the debate
Series 40 was on prime during 5310 XpressMusic days.. superb animation with awesome short-cuts and also way mature and stable to use. I got Nokia 7900 Prism with me and also Nokia 5310 XpressMusic. Both are making my days wow with them♥️
Hope Nokia can bring back series 40.. Also I am using Nokia 5310 2020. This phone is really good for loudspeaker music and also 🔋
But it has more to catch up.. when I place it next to my old 5310. It feels very cheap amlnd immature. Also no themes.. again poor app support..
Finally some one understand that Nokia need his soul the symbian os on there classic phone
We will get it back if you with us
@sivabharani just take quick look at this
Now @HMDLaura please make it right.. Don't brink back Nokia phone with new OS..we prefer The Old OS. Who had everything think on there own.. A great music app. A gallery app with tone of functions.. But Nokia os nothing like that. Bring atleast one model with symbian os and old specifications. I can assure that you are not going to @madbilly Disappointed..@mad
Hello guys there is a rumor that Huwai is bringing back the symbian os to life.due to overcome android
Hi @JAVA,
Where is this rumour about Huawei and Symbian.
And note that S40 is not Symbian, it is S40. Symbian is S60.
Cheers 🙂
Got it form Twitter
Hi @JAVA can you give the link to the twitter post please, I'd like to check it out.
Cheers 🙂
Is gone 😢.. but I have another good news
@madbilly there is still develepers available for symbian os in Russia
This CFW is "half-official" because those guys have been making it together with the help of ex-Nokia developers who worked on the construction of that phone. It sounds amazing, does not it? Soon a newer version of this firmware will be published.
As well as Delight, by the way. Next week, Nokia 808 PureView's firmware will get an incredible Delight 1.8 unofficial update, some fixes of which make this phone far more usable in 2020!
Follow allaboutsymbian.com so that not to miss these great news.
Finally she is coming back..
Finally she is coming back..
Series 40 is a closed-source OS. I do not think it will ever get updated or used as a basis again (not speaking about possible enthusiasts' efforts, of course).
xD
Sure. If it is not coming from @HMDLaura on new models for whatever reasons, then it will have to come from @Max the Doctor and other fans on classical models who are indifferent to "her" ;)
Tertium non datur.
You know, if you recall other old OS such as Bada or Palm, they died themselves on account of inability to concur more featured and usable analogues, and this is quite normal. But Symbian, it did not die itself. And this is not that good. So, some people are also motivated by this unfair outcome, and they use old Nokia phones on purpose.
@Max the Doctor We can bring her back. But we have to try it right? @sivabharani Can help as a lot. He founded that there is still developers support symbian os in Russia.. may there is still a chance a force. And My Nokia C2 is 9 years old. Still have a great music player and gallery apk. Even New 5310 can't beat it.@madbilly
Hi @JAVA,
If you want to get a phone running a "modern" version of Symbian then get one which will run the Delight firmware or Symbian World. The C2 didn't run Symbian though, it ran S40, so you'll need to find something else for proper Symbian (not just a similar UI).
@Max the Doctor well done on getting Delight 1.8 out! Did you also manage to get it our for the other Symbian^3 and later phones as well?
Cheers 🙂
@madbilly
I plan to do that. There should not be so many problems only because ca. 90% of work is going to be just a porting from 808 to other models :)
Finally she is coming back.. bring it
Hey java. For that too happen you need to buy it from Microsoft. They acquired all their software and hardware divisions in past. They have the Symbian or S40 source codes.
Correction. They not have control of Symbian source codes
Hi at all, I read all comments and I hope that symbian os reborns, **** NOT absolutely for the feature phones, which are too limited in hardware and consequently in software. The J2ME support in symbian is totally optional, and the principal languages that are used for programs are the original symbian C++ and Qt, which are more powerful, for example for accessing the various hardware, that isn't supported on feature phones, older or newer, isn't different. I like think that, if symbian come back, It would be necessary to compete with android and iOS, and the principal reason is the lightness of symbian, also for modern hardware, that promise a more durability of modern battery. For example I have tried to attach on my N8 the 2500 mAh battery of Nexus 5, and with medium-high use of the phone, i've arrived from 100% to 20% in two and half weeks. And I said all, with this anecdote. And, last thing, i'm not very good to develop a application for s60 or s80, but i'm on good road.
Best regards from italian symbian fan 💛
Let's keep talking untill they listen 😜
@JAVA Still, you're trying to bring it back. But it's like officials of HMD global don't want to invest more on a feature phone. They just buy MTK chipsets to give them a fresh UI and that's it. They even don't want to invest in R&D of their smartphone lineup. That's why they just rely on google one project for their smartphone line up.
Well is not about android one so HMD can't rely on Google for feature phones. And Nokia don't had any resources in the past years. But Nokia nokia have more funding.and Nokia is coming back we can see. That in 22sep🤩🤩 hope they don't going to be disappointed
So many words have been said. Eventually:
What about money? I do not know exactly. I think if there are a lot of pre-orders and sales, then we can make money on the app store.
Will we be able to find developers and other specialists for the first OS prototype and hardware? I think yes, if the old Symbian developers find out about serious plans to re-release the OS and phones. This requires a platform with all information and discussions.
I do not think that the new Symbian should be made a competitor to Android. The limit of its capabilities is video calls. I said, I have N-Gage QD with 104 mHz, 16 mb Ram. It works very fast (with video and 3D games) because screen 176x220px and 4096 colors.
A new phone should not have a cool screen. Chats, contacts, pays, music, smart-fit watch, BT headphones, WIFI, 4G modem, GPS, emails don't need in color screen. Its all good work on e-ink display. Its powersafe solution and work with week processor.
Unfortunately I only fullstack web developer and software architect. I cant create OS 😥
We give all the efforts we can