The Nokia 5.1 seems to be awfully eager to kill background apps.
The Nokia 5.1 seems to be awfully eager to kill background apps. Apps like Whatsapp keep getting killed and there is no background activity manager setting at Settings -> Battery.
You should try disabling "Battery Optimization" for the apps which you want to keep running infinitely in the background.
The only solution I found to this problem was to use adb to blow away all the com.evenwell bloat that HMD seems insistent on loading. Why they felt they know how to do power management better than the standard Android settings (especially with doze) I have no idea. So far no ill effects from getting rid of all evenwell packages - just standard Android goodness.
Well, maybe they thought they will do that, because of the ridiculous batterys with lesser than 3000 mAh.
Yeah, the fact this doesn't really seem to bother them does not convince me to buy a Nokia phone next time or encourage others to do so. Really this seems a rather problematic issue, apps are restarting all the time which is really hurting multitasking on top of the fact I can permanently not use Twilight anymore for screen filtering.
Paul (if you read this), does taking out the HMD software affect battery life very badly? I'm not use to very impressive battery life, so if it lasts just one day thats fine with me.
@Eic that really sucks. I noticed that sometimes notifications, for example from WhatsApp, suddenly vanish again. When I then switch to the app it restarts. If nothing has happened in a year, then I have very little confidence this will get solved. I also contacted support to ask them to bring this issue to the attention of the developers.
I really don't want to go through the trouble of returning my phone but this is almost forcing me to. Alternatively I might root the phone and install a decent Android version.
I remember such behavior was after upgrading Nokia 6 to Android 8.0, very aggressive memory management killing apps even excluded from battery optimization. That was kind of fixed after upgrade to 8.1. Probably some bugs were fixed in evenwell packages
I found the best bug fix for the evenwell packages was to blow them all away on my 3.1. No issues or lost features encountered after a month of running it like that.
Have you removed all com.evenwell.* packages? AFAIK without root privileges packages are removed only for the current user and get restored on factory reset. Btw did it result into freeing any space?
I just disabled at least half of those evenwell packages responsible for collecting and reporting various telemetry, but probably removing is the next step
You're right - I could only remove them for the current user. ie,pm uninstall --user 0 <packagename>Can't say I paid much attention to the space change - it wasn't significant enough for me to notice.
System apps are in system partition, which user cannot access (user can only access main partition). Sizes of partitions are pre-set, so deleting system apps isn't going to free up the space that user uses.
I too disabled majority of evenwell packages. Noticed minimum changes to the good side just after deletion, but then I restarted the phone and everything's back to normal (it will take couple of days to notice the changes). Will update if any changes will surface.
Sorry for the double, but here's my update: phone still sucks.
Have a nice day.
Still having the same problems, only worse. Whatsapp keeps dying as do other background apps like call recorder... Nokia/HMD displays the exact amount of interest in fixing this problem as I expected, that is none whatsoever.
Don't worry. They won't fix sh.t. Wait for bootloader to unlock and use lineageOS.
Use ADB commands to solve this issue - like other users (including me with a Nokia 5 from 2017). Waiting for Nokia is just not worth it in my opinion.
I managed to fix my issues by disabling the task killing software bundled with the phone. Did this via ADB using the commands below (im on Oreo)pm uninstall --user 0 com.evenwell.emmpm uninstall --user 0 com.evenwell.batteryprotectpm uninstall --user 0 com.evenwell.batteryprotect.overlay.base.s600wwSee if that helps?
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