Android 11 on Nokia 7.2

Joost

No kidding, doing that Nokia product placement deal in "No Time to Die" probably blew the entire software development budget for the 6.2 and 7.2, multiple times over.

singhnsk

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/198412#Comment_198412

Haha do you think their software was better before that? I'm watching them since years. Every year there's something or the other. But their software has always been a buggy mess.

Initial devices = FIH did the software. Once FIH was out, I thought, okay now software will improve.

Then came the other ODMs = I thought okay new people will do better OS development and bug-free updates, but things didn't change.

Now in the third phase, hmd is doing its software itself via the people they hired (new devices only, old get maintained by the original contractors) = I'm waiting and watching if they'll actually fix anything or continue with the legacy. For now, the overview appears as if things are better, but the 2nd year is when we'll see for sure.

In the entire 3 year journey of Nokia phone ownership, users always crave for the next update hoping that their devices will start working normally, but months pass one by one, and the phone remains the same (or gets worse). And that's how bad the crap Android One platform is.

atv

It's been almost a month since I got Android 11 on my Nokia 7.2. During that time I haven't been able to charge my phone normally, not to mention numerous other issues.

I'm Finnish so this makes me sad, but I don't see myself buying another Nokia phone ever again.

Fajar Saputra

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/198409#Comment_198409

And how james bond can use or survive with malfungtion ???

Vasilis Kos.

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/198450#Comment_198450

He gets a Pixel! 😎

Esko Nummi

****.

classicowiec

Still nothing in Poland

hamiiiiiiiid

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/198469#Comment_198469

And hundreds of other countries ...

FixMyNokiaCamera

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/198409#Comment_198409

How about some truth in product placement:

M: "Bond - take a picture of Blofeld's secret under-volcano lair, and send it to Q via our secure messaging app, so that he can work out exactly where to target the missile strike."

007: "I'd love to, M, but ever since the Android 11 update, the camera doesn't work."

007: "So what gadgets have you got for me this time, Q?"

Q: "This - it's the very latest Nokia smartphone. It's ideal for short missions of less than 24 hours duration - unfortunately, the recharging doesn't work. We've contacted Nokia to get it fixed, but they haven't told us anything yet."

Vasilis Kos.

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/198483#Comment_198483

You rock dude! 😂😂😂👍

Frans De Groot

I have 7.2 i live in Holland the Netherlands when is update to android 11 i wait to long all IT is december 2021. Come nokia

pre vish

Andorid 11 is good. But it is still not fully sopported. Some minor issue still present.

Like my phone ring even in silent mode if it is in my pant pocket.

Gesture navigation not fluent specially on recent application view.

Hope will get this fixed in next update.

ZAKARI MUMUNI

Why is Africa not included in your list of those to receive the update? Are Africans not welcomed to the HMD global family?

Jim-Boy

I don't know what is worst

• All bugs in Android 11 upgrade (charging, camera, ...)
• Total ignorance from HMD Globals side.

One can wonder if Nokia would 'sell' their brand-name to HMD Global once more if they knew how HMD Global is dragging it to dirt...

A big, really big shame!

A Disapointed user

Hello everyone,

As HMD Global seems abandoned its Nokia 7.2 customers after breaking literally every 7.2 users with the famous Andriod 11 upgrade. I was forced to visit company service center hoping for a solution to the recharge bug they have brought in with Andriod 11 upgrade. The service center guys said they can't downgrade the OS as I requested firstly as the process can damage the motherboard according to them. They did a software reflash and said it will solve the issue as I knew its very unlikely to solve the issue. As expected reflashing the same software version didn't solved anything. And now they openly admit themselves that the update issued by HMD was bugged and they have no solution to the problem created by the company itself and asking me to wait (indefinitely with hope) for a software fix they may release in the future! This is it HMD-Nokia. This is how a company had to shutter down its business. The seriousness of the irresponsibility comitted by the company is beyond words. I am in the process of looking for a new smartphone from a brand with proven track record. Goodluck HMD Local.

Alessandro Zambonin

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/197369#Comment_197369

In Italy no update! :-(

Joost

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https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/198415#Comment_198415

Respectfully disagreeing when you write

"In the entire 3 year journey of Nokia phone ownership, users always crave for the next update hoping that their devices will start working normally, but months pass one by one, and the phone remains the same (or gets worse). And that's how bad the crap Android One platform is."

I happen to be a moderate fan of Android One, and actually prefer it over Samsung's flavour that I am using on my other phone (i.e. the Samsung is for business use, because the Nokia isn't reliable enough - for example because I couldn't make or answer calls pressing the phone to my ear; the proximity sensor wouldn't switch off the screen as it was supposed to do, so experienced cut off calls, the mic going on mute, etc.).

My previous Android One phone was also built by Longcheer - if I'm correct that's the number 3 ODM when looking at shipped volume of phones on the market. That super cheap General Mobile 4G phone never acted up, it was reliable and literally exceeded all my expectations.

Brands such as Xiaomi and Oppo also have their phones built by Longcheer and didn't have any problems with the GPS not working for months, or cameras crapping out when certain popular apps are also present on the phone, also no reported issues with proximity sensors, or very late and extremely buggy upgrades to Android 11.

It is not Android One that is crap, it is HMD/Nokia Mobile's implementation of it that is crap, whether it's the ODM or Nokia doing the software support (actually I don't think this is still done by the ODM because of the current epic failure with A11 - a serious brand would not have accepted this kind of crap performance by its supplier).

The people resonsible at HMD global should be ashamed for this smartphone that barely gets the attention it requires to be functional and reliable. They still continue to leave their customers in the cold and they are wrecking the Nokia brand in the process.

As Steve Jobs would say: "5H!7H34D5"

Kimble303

https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/android-11

user1536988784097

Nokia smart phone are world's No 1 buggy Phone.

Adrian Neacsu

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/198521#Comment_198521

I totally agree, it's not the ODM's fault My mother's Xiaomi Mi A3 is build also by Longcheer and she got the Update to A11 in April with 1 month delay because of the bricking issue.

singhnsk

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/198521#Comment_198521

And I agree with you anyways mate. I think you took it too personally about the Android One remark.

Given that Nokia is now the only company doing Android One phones, and I've seen people have a bad experience with both Xiaomi and Moto's Android One phones, although not bad as hmd ones, I made it as a general remark. There's some substance when we see that most of the OEMs who committed to Android One have moved on and aren't doing it anymore.

Of course, any software can be made good if optimized, audited, and delivered properly. I wasn't putting the blame on ODM alone here, that's why I said I was hopeful when they switched ODMs, like okay, maybe FIH was bad, now things will be better, then maybe other ODMs might be bad, now hmd will do better, and yes, they are better than the ODM releases as of now, but we are only seeing first gen of the software from them as of now. ODMs will have a different kind of delivery for different kind of products

And for a fun little thing, longcheer is using the same test signing keys to sign the Nokia 7.2 OTA builds that it used on some general mobile phone (and the awesome team left the keys - that are supposed to be private - in the software - I laugh at their security). So, yeah the keys are available and anybody can sign their own custom build and sideload it as an OTA. The phone will accept it because the keys will be validated. Now that's how secure the Nokia 7.2 goes from the security perspective 😎

If doing an ODM to ODM comparison and since hmd utilizes many of them, Huaqin is the one that has done the most stable Android One updates to Nokia phones among all of them - maybe hmd pays them more. The performance of ODMs also depends on a lot of factors, including how many similar specced clones they made for others. With more phones having common internals, it becomes easier for them to develop OS once and then ship them to a number of devices under different names. Such devices will get more stable builds due to widespread utilization.

And Android One being crap is still going to be my personal remark for it being the most featureless version of Android. It seems to be built for lazy companies who do not want to make the effort of differentiating the product from the competition. I don't hate it for hmd's delivery being buggy. I hate it for being without features and customization options in a world where almost every OEM has a better-developed software experience. And also at a point where hardware is almost the same in the market and software is the area where most of the differentiating is happening (something that hmd itself agrees to, internally).

emad yakout

Ok , please nokia tell us

Will you update 7.2 and 6.2 to android 11 or not ?

Joost

@singhnsk

Thank you for your elaborate answer.

CJaramillo

they should give us Android 12 instead, as an apology.

Giuseppe Santo

But in Italy when the update to Android 11 arrives for the Nokia 7.2 ???

Giuseppe Santo

https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/comment/198514#Comment_198514

Giuseppe Santo

Hello to all owners of Nokia 7.2 ... I have some time that I am thinking of changing devices ... as I am seeing in Nokia a huge arrogance and indifference towards its customers ... The Nokia 7.2 has various problems almost always and would need an update .... I look forward to Android 11, but it has more than a month that has been released and still nothing in Italy .... Now I read here some comments that the update to Android 11 it also has some bugs and that maybe in the future a new build will be released to fix the various bugs ... We are mad ... I am looking around, and there are already 2 - 3 devices around that are attracting my attention. ... This is Oppo Reno 6 the basic version ... then I like The Realme GT in the 12 Gb of RAM and 256 GB of Storage, or the Realme GT neo 2, also in the 12 Gb and 256 GB of Storage. .. To be premised that my wife owned a Nokia 6.2, with the annoying Camera Bug that you don't opened, and that to take a picture you had to restart the device 2 - 3 times a day ... So since Nokia had not yet released the update to Android 11 I thought for her birthday to give her a Top of the range .. . that is Oppo Reno 6 pro 5G ... and honestly I must say that it is a splendid device .... Also by registering on the Oppo site and uploading the receipt on the site ... after a few I received the confirmation email that it receipt had been validated, and that within a few days I received a free package with a black cover inside for Oppo Reno 6 Pro, a watch called Oppo band style, and wireless earphones all for a value of 280 € !! So I think there are alternatives to Nokia ....

Long88

Hey Nokia, we-Nokia 7.2 users are staying here, waiting for your update package as soon as possible. NOKIA, Please, look at this forum thread.

We are so tired of this Android 11.