Two years of delivering on our pure, secure and up-to-date Android promise
Here at the home of Nokia phones, we’re committed to ensuring our fans have peace of mind by offering them the most up-to-date and secure Android experience on their Nokia smartphones. In February 2017, we introduced the new era of Nokia smartphones with our unique promise of pure, secure and up-to-date Android. In our first year, we brought to you Nokia 8, Nokia 6, Nokia 5, Nokia 3 and Nokia 2* and made a commitment to you that your Nokia smartphones would stay fresh and secure for longer with our promise of two major OS updates and two years of regular security updates.
And here we are, two years on, delighted to tell you that we’re surpassing that pledge. As the two-year period draws to a close for these smartphones, we remain committed to delivering the best and most secure experiences. So, what does it mean? Once we reach 2 years from the time last market launched these smartphones (and following Operator and regional approvals), the Nokia 8, Nokia 6**, Nokia 5 and the Nokia 3 will be able to receive quarterly security patch updates right through to the end of the 3rd year. To ensure you’ll be up to date, these quarterly releases will include all patches from the previous months.
We aim to be completely transparent when it comes to updates and software. That’s why we want to ensure that Nokia smartphone fans know when their model will no longer receive the security updates they’ve been used to. This will apply to the full Nokia smartphone family – so everyone can benefit from a smartphone that stays secure for longer. After two years of monthly updates, the Nokia 3 will be the first model to start receiving updates quarterly updates from September 2019 until September 2020.
Quarterly security update switch dates:
- Nokia 5 - Quarterly patch begins from October 2019 until October 2020
- Nokia 6** - Quarterly patch begins from October 2019 until October 2020
- Nokia 8 - Quarterly patch begins from October 2019 until October 2020
*For users of Nokia 2, the security patch support will conclude in November 2019**For users of Nokia 6 Amazon (USA and India), the security patch support will conclude in October 2019
So, That's the end of Nokia 2 from November 2019.1
That's a great news. Nice to know that the older phones will receive support for one more year
Still Nokia 8 Deserve atleast 1 Camera Update 🙂20
Awesome! Now can we have a word on bootloader unlocking on these devices? I'd like to update my phone long after official support ends.9
That's nice. I would like to know if these will just be security patches or will HMD fix bugs that might be present in several devices. As these will be quarterly updates HMD will have time to make these devices a bit more stable or also enable some features like dolby atmos on Nokia 6 which many users say is not working anymore on latest updates.
It would also be a very helpful if HMD also to unlock the bootloader of these devices. This would breathe a new life into them.
nitinkachare ✭✭✭✭So Indian Version Nokia 6 and Nokia 2 will get end of security patch on October 2019 and November 2019 respectively where as Nokia 3,Nokia 5,Nokia 8 got another one year security patch.
I think you should have give bootloader unlock to Nokia 2,Nokia 6 Indian Version after end of their security patch and after that one by one 2018 devices.8
@HMD_Laura how does this fit in with the Android Enterprise Recommended promise of at least three years security updates delivered within 90 days after Google release???At least Nokia 8 is such a device ...
Kartik Gada said:That's nice. I would like to know if these will just be security patches or will HMD fix bugs that might be present in several devices. As these will be quarterly updates HMD will have time to make these devices a bit more stable or also enable some features like dolby atmos on Nokia 6 which many users say is not working anymore on latest updates.
It would also be a very helpful if HMD also to unlock the bootloader of these devices. This would breathe a new life into them.
martin.fd said:@HMD_Laura how does this fit in with the Android Enterprise Recommended promise of at least three years security updates delivered within 90 days after Google release???At least Nokia 8 is such a device ...5
What's funny regarding announcement for Nokia 2 is already nougat is running well for few of consumers but with this announcement you have made them to hurt and loose trust ,which is not even a big thing for a company like you and Oreo 8.1 completely forget about it since you have again proved that delivering software upgrades along with SP is not a possible job for you for a device because at the time of rumors and device FCC specifications Nokia 3 and Nokia 2 resembles same design but to get both into market some changes must be made and that's changes were not made it perfectly by the R and D for Nokia 2,so now seeing this announcement is not a hurting thing,Well Done HMD!Well Done
But why no to Nokia 6 Amazon(India and US) users,are they still doesn't meet the requirements for Quarterly updates?At least make some review for those users since you have already lost the Nokia 2 users with these but have some focus for those users who own that specified Device since there are the users sincerely have made HMD to rise up to this stage at very beginning of this chapter.3
Excellent news for my quartet of 2017 Nokia 5 and 6 phones. This kind of support is why Nokia will be my preferred supplier when they're due for replacement next year.
One request: please keep the fingerprint sensor on the front as I use a windscreen holder which obscures those on the rear (and why I've not bought the .1 versions), thanks.2
Hi @HMD_Laura,Thank you for sharing this announcement here in the forums, it's much appreciated.I know that HMD have tried to be unambiguous in this but there is still some ambiguity from my point of view so maybe you can clarify please:
About the Nokia 2 @user1516119250933 and @user1520881638007: did HMD ever say it would get 3 years of updates or did we assume this? I remember at some point HMD saying that the 3 and above would get the 3 years of updates, but not the 2 or 1 series phones. I can't remember when this was said though. If anyone can find anyone from HMD saying that the 2 will get 3 years of updates then please share the link. Your other points on the 2 are valid but we've obviously discussed them a lot elsewhere already with little notice taken by HMD as far as we can tell.The case of the Nokia 6 Amazon edition is interesting. Is this similar to the carrier-specific devices which HMD has launched in the USA which aren't guaranteed the same updates as the global phones? I think that @user1520881638007 is right though - the people bought this phone are the ones that helped HMD to kickstart it's journey, so it would be nice to see a little more respect of that.Finally, I will repeat the request of everyone else - at the end of the support period please provide an official way to unlock the bootloader of these phones!
- When you say "begins from" does this mean that the last monthly patch will be the month before the "begins from" month? E.g. Nokia 3's last monthly patch will be September 2019, then the monthly updates for Oct, Nov and Dec 2019 will be rolled up into the first quarterly patch in Dec 2019?
- Will any of these security updates fix any bugs? There are remaining bugs in the software for these phones and in some cases they no longer have features they were sold as having, see @Kartik Gada's example. Surely HMD should be legally obliged to reenable this functionality? So, please HMD, #FixTheBugs
- Please can you explain why the Nokia 6 Amazon edition won't get the full 3 years of updates whilst the global Nokia 6 will?
Thanks for sharing this, I'm sure many will be happy with the extended support and having a definitive date in mind for EOL.
By Nokia 6 Amazon, do you mean the Prime Exclusive version that had ads or the regular TA-1025 variant which I think was only sold by Amazon in the US and Canada.1
See HMD have rights to do what ever they can because HMD and Google are the partners in Software development and they can make any device under android enterprise recommend,Nokia 1 and 2 are the first ever devices in Low Configuration based devices but Since it's not happy for users who doesn't even get into optional upgrade and stayed where HMD recommend and left the entire days with only SP and MR update,So why don't they deserve the Additional Updates in the form of Quarter Updates,Since there is no such clarity that Quarter updates will be like security updates or MR updates or what exactly meant?What type of fixes they do get?Since Whooping for Additional Updates is not answer of joy than asking for the reasonable things for a users
Regarding Android Enterprise it's not a surprise since all the devices are getting certified like a degree certificate for most of Android Enterprise Recommend and other OEM of Android one are having such recommend or not don't have clarity but only for the reason of Android Enterprise Recommend,giving additional update is not likely to be good reason since Nokia 6 also deserves that but why Nokia 2 & 6(specified) has gave up for that?At least as a part of equal share in 3 years of OS if they did then acceptable or else after all this doesn't make sense for Nokia 2 and Nokia 6(specified) users3
Google will stop patching Nougat this year (every version of Android only gets 2 years of updates from release), because of the weird Oreo situation on the Nokia 2 I assume this is why patches for it will stop early.
It would be nice though if HMD can unlock the bootloader once devices are EOL.6
That means Nokia 8 won't be getting Android Q even if it has left few months after Q release. Well,At least give us stable camera update with improvements and Stable Pie.8
HMD_Laura said:We aim to be completely transparent when it comes to updates and software.
madbilly said:I just realised there's no mention of the Nokia 7. I know it was a China only phone but still there are people who have it outside China... @singhnsk?CheersOh well, they have never mentioned that device globally and they never will. The same for all the models since all run on a different software vs the global. And I see the support ending in 2 years. Moreover, I don't even consider security patches a luxury or anything. They come, I'm cool. They don't come, I don't mind. I know how to remain secure without them. If only they were feature updates, I'll jump here and there in joy 😅 No offense to those who consider it a critical part of their phone choice 😊5
@HMD_Laura Since Nokia 8 is Treble capable, albeit unofficially, it would be more than welcome by the customers if HMD makes at least the proprietary blobs public, so the community can create a proper vendor image.3
glx said:@HMD_Laura Since Nokia 8 is Treble capable, albeit unofficially, it would be more than welcome by the customers if HMD makes at least the proprietary blobs public, so the community can create a proper vendor image.1
robin said:glx said:@HMD_Laura Since Nokia 8 is Treble capable, albeit unofficially, it would be more than welcome by the customers if HMD makes at least the proprietary blobs public, so the community can create a proper vendor image.1
Does this include the .x models? I've been wanting to come back to Nokia for quite some time now and am looking at the 6.1 (mostly) at the moment. One of the reasons I'd like to back Nokia again (other than missing my old ones lol) is because of the Android One program and I've seen reviews/camera examples, etc and the 6.1 seems like it would fit my needs the most. I'm kind of waiting to see the 6.2 first though... but yeah, sorry about that.
Are the .1 versions included in the above or just the main 6, etc devices?0
ValerieAnne said:Does this include the .x models? I've been wanting to come back to Nokia for quite some time now and am looking at the 6.1 (mostly) at the moment. One of the reasons I'd like to back Nokia again (other than missing my old ones lol) is because of the Android One program and I've seen reviews/camera examples, etc and the 6.1 seems like it would fit my needs the most. I'm kind of waiting to see the 6.2 first though... but yeah, sorry about that.
Are the .1 versions included in the above or just the main 6, etc devices?4
@ValerieAnne Do note that the 6.1 is already an year old and it will get Android Q and then the monthly security updates for the next year. You should really checkout the 6.2 and see if it fits your budget and needs.
How about fixing Nokia 8s problems first? Camera, calling issues etc.5
> @Kartik Gada said:
> The .1 devices come under the Android One Program and come with a promised to receive 2 major OS upgrades and Three years of monthly security patches.
Thank you @Kartik Gada I wanted to make sure/check since it's a sub of the phones listed but slightly newer models.. so wanted to check lol
@singhnsk Thank you. I probably will, unless I can find a good deal on the phone. Unless I can find the screen size of the new ones, as that will be a deal breaker, as with smaller hands, I'd like to keep my screen size under 6" and that's getting harder and harder to do nowadays (my Samsung is a 5.1 (I believe)).3
How can you claim that your Android is pure when is full of third party package from Evenwell?
If I take Nokia 5.1 for example it is so full of evenwell packages so it is almost scary.
In addition Nokia 5.1 and many other models (I own 6 different models) shuts down apps that have been in the background for a while even though you choose to exclude it from battery optimization. The support was upset about this too but they can't answer why this is "by design".
As it is now all my 6 different Nokia models are unusable for our family because 'Family Locator' app just won't work!
Thank you for your so called "Pure, secure and up-to-date Android promise"!1
Hi @Draywen,Define "Pure Android". Do you mean AOSP only? Well, good luck finding a phone which runs that and is any good at all.Do you mean the same as a Nexus or Pixel? Well, the Nexus' had the ODM integration apps similar to Evenwell in them (from LG, Huawei, Samsung, Motorola, etc) and both the Nexus and Pixels are full of Google's proprietary non-AOSP apps and other stuff, so I don't really call that pure, do you?So, please define pure, then we can have a sensible conversation about it.Cheers1
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