https://youtu.be/Sw5AF0S8j4Q Hi guys, Thank you for your patience. Truly.
Thank you for your patience. Truly.
To ensure that you don’t have to wait anymore to get Pie on your Nokia 8, we decided to make it a Beta labs release first.
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Secondly, no updates or changes to the camera firmware or app on the Nokia 8. So we have a Nokia camera app on the playstore vastly more feature rich and further ahead than the Nokia 8 app and it cannot be used.
Some real incompetence with software development going on internally at HMD. Maybe its time to stop announcing a new phone every 3~6 months if more resources need to go into software development? Your competitors are managing far better at getting their phones onto Pie and most of them have skins to make, features to add to Pie and more changes overall, than Nokia's "naked Android" version.
But the 8 doesn't have project treble/launched on 7.0/needs more time to get onto Pie! Yeah, and the Sirocco has project treble, launched on 8.0 and is officially part of the Android One program...
To say November was the ETA aimed at for release for 8/Sirocco and midway through December this completely unfinished beta is where we are at... I don't want to blame the staff working on things, but your higher-ups are making some really poor decisions with this brand and while you might be seeing expansion, watch how quickly your own community can turn on you when software support is poor/lacking/slow and disregards the more expensive handsets people pay you for.
-The battery manager is the same of Oreo, so no adaptive battery and new optimization;
-The launcher is based on the latest AOSP launcher, but there isn't the support for app actions. In addition to this, most used app in drawer now is missing;
-The camera is the same present in Oreo, the only change is Google Lens shortcut;
-The Glance screen is the old one without the support for all apps;
-There isn't the support for Digital Wellbeing, the placeholder in the settings is missing, this means that even if we install it through the APK, we can't use it.
And these are just the things you notice at first sight. I think it's totally useless to report feedback via the app. It's a build so far from what should be the definitive that there would be too much to report and I think the development team is aware of it.
I hope that the internal builds on which they are at work are completely different from this released just to calm the minds. Otherwise we would have to wait a long time to see a stable build.
This looks like damage control to say "But you can get Pie today!". You can barely call this Pie with soo much missing and for a phone with vanilla Android this is very poor progress for release in mid-December.
I don't know what it is about the Nokia 8, and the Sirocco, but HMD seem to absolutely hate them. Which is ironic considering at release both were far more expensive handsets than all the mid-range/low-range handsets HMD release. It's not entitlement for anyone who paid up at launch to expect better support, irrespective of how much you can now buy each handset for.
At this stage buying a Nokia 9 which will probably be their most expensive handset at launch yet seems utterly "pointless". Your software support will be terrible if this is how the 8/Sirocco are treated, and it has nothing to do with project treble, considering the Sirocco is a project treble enabled device.
Speaking of internal builds, while I won't link to them, the Nokia 8 internal pie builds from the end of November are pretty much identical to what was released on Beta labs today.
-Wheater forecast in the lock screen is missing;
-Screenshot editor is missing;
-A very old design bug: the network icon in the status bar is the one from Android 8. With Android 8.1 this icon is updated with one with rounded corner (like the wifi and battery icons). In Android 9 Pie we still have the wrong icon (this is the last problem of this beta).
@ericsondavidson in your camera app flash toggle is missing besides the double layer
I haven't this problem, have you tried to clear cache of the app or the data?
1. More time laps speed
2. Pro Camera Mode Update on shuters speed minimum 30 seconds
. Quit your **** and download the beta and provide some feedback that actually helps.
Thanks HMD
Downloading....
Other OEM realeased a full Pie update a month ago or before; but Nokia has the motto "Pure, secure and up to date", not the other.
We are waiting for a camera update for a year now and in this "beta" there is the same buggy and low performance app, when the other Nokia devices have the new camera app for months. And they promised the new camera app with Pie.
We haven't a decent Glance Screen, while on the Sirocco it's complete, it would be enough to make a port. If they don't want they could restore the stock Ambient display.
The hmd developer team is inexistent. A lot of system apps are developed by Evenwell, other from FIH...as long as this is the case, these kinds of problems will persist.
Repeat, I hope they have a much better internal build, the one released today is just a sop, lacking many things. For the feedback...I report a lot of lack, this isn't a feedback?
Yes, hmd released Pie on other devices, but missing the high end devices, it's a bit disappointing.
Today they released a beta that isn't a beta, a lot of feature are missing, the new camera app is missing, the bugs are always here...
Don't misunderstand me, I'm a fan of the first hour of the rebirth of the Nokia brand, but it is quite clear that the development team in hmd is almost non-existent. Most of the work is done by FIH (Foxconn) and Evenwell (just browse through the system apps to realize it). As long as they don't have a proper development team, they will never be able to keep the promise of a pure, secure and up to date Android. They are betting on software, investing in that.
After months of promises it's hard not to be a little angry at the release of an early stage build whit a lot of part missing.