Hello,
I bought my first Nokia 8 after a month long test for 400 EUR. I was a huge Motorola man since the 90s, when they made great phones, but didn't really align to smartphone era, to say the least. I was ready to ditch Android as a platform and choose Apple because of so many bugs. I had phones costing up to 600 EUR, through which I couldn't even call people because of so many bugs. Nokia 8 was finally an Android phone I could really recommend. Everything was running slick, so many apps in the background running smooth, no need to restart phone every day or so etc. Lousy camera shots at low light (seems like only Samsung is able to deliver this), few little bugs with Viber/GSM calling not passing audio but all in all, by far best Android phone I ever owned. I bought another one, this time a dual-SIM one, battery life was little worse then single SIM, but I could live with it.
And then it came ...Pie update ..... OMG! What a nightmare, what a broken piece of crap!
Issues so far:
- Battery life is now worse than ever (I have to recharge my phones immediately coming after work and not in the evening as usual). What happened to this adaptive battery thing? Before anyone says that Nokia 8 is not an Android One phone, I really don't care. It was even said before at one time that Nokia 8 will be promoted to an A1 device retroactively.
- My Internet 4G data is breaking up each and every day. Every now and then I need to restart my phone to re-enable it and I thought that was finally history. I dial someone and talk to a party during which my Internet access is gone. Immediately after the call, it's there. Yesterday, I was at the restaurant, created a Wi-Fi hotspot tether and wanted to use my computer to help out a colleague, but I couldn't work during a call..cause there's no freakin' Internet!!!!
- OK Google voice commands which I used daily with 8.1 is gone w/o any announcement...why? Nobody's talking about it.
- Stupid icons display...one cannot choose different Wifi SSID immediately by pressing underneath an icon but have to go back to Settings
HMD had (at least looked to me) great public support to its customers comparing to Motorola non-existent one, via Twitter and such. Right now, it seems that is becoming just like them - non-answering, spin doctoring, spreading lies about already promised things etc, hiding under Google etc.
This Pie update is an EPIC-FAIL for sure. I urge people not to update to it at all.
There's no worse and more annoying thing for a customer having a great product/service being demoted to a piece-of-crap one. Companies like that do not survive. Right now, I'm so very disappointed at HMD. They won't fool me again, I can tell you. Right now, I wouldn't buy or recommend a Nokia phone to anybody.
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The battery is almost the same for me, but I did clean installation.
The 4G is also perfect and even the speed is faster than Oreo.
For everything else you are right.
So what you're saying is that i.e. when a customer has a Linux server and updates it, he/she should delete all its data, wipe the hard drive with magnet, and re-install from the start, in order for everything to work. That's not a common knowledge rather a time-consuming annoying thing for an owner to do, that serves as an excuse for vendor bugs ("yeah customer didn't factory reset, so that's why it's not working"). It usually doesn't do anything to help IMO, so why do it?
This is a classic example of spin-doctoring, we ended up talking about factory reset, rather an issue on topic.
HMD, we don't need apologetics on this forum, we need real answers to our proper requests for solving bugs. It's the best answer to all the criticism.
https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/42262/battery-dropping-drastically#latest
On Pie, it does rapidly fast. So that's a software bug.
A "bed in"? Like John and Yoko?
By "sadly some people fail to realize", you mean me and handful of others non-intelligent having this issue? I recharged my phones million times since the update, that does not explain idle battery draining.
Why this witchcraft story?
So, an update is now close to a month old. How many more months it takes for a "system to finishes them"?
- Compass calibration looks completely broken now.
Found out recently. So it's another bug after all.
Great.
- battery far worse, draining on idle
- random loss of complete cellular data connectivity (happens during calls establishment)
- Google Assistant voice commands are gone
- Compass is completely broken
- phone won't charge occasionally (had to reboot with charger to start charging) even though it changes icon to charging
These are issues I encountered, there's also whole bunch of other stuff people are pointing to.
I consider this firmware far from even being beta, so it begs a question why the heck was it pushed? HMD, what was the purpose of this firmware? To get us all mad as ****?
When will the proper firmware be pushed? I take it fixes are not even in consideration, rather a whole new firmware. When? When? When?
Here it is the latest update from juho