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Project Treble - Nokia 8 Oreo

Will the stable Oreo release for the Nokia 8 contain Android Project Treble?

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I believe, Project Treble has nothing for end-users, it's an interface only for device vendors for implementing major os updates. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
That's correct. But it's important for end users as well, because vendors can update critical parts of the OS more quickly and easily.

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Thanks for the clarification Dear Jeroom.

As I checked a few pages on xda and android.com, understand project treble is a part of android os framework starting with Oreo. And I believe that HMD took advantage of Treble to publish Oreo Beta, being among the very few device manufacturers. (Although we haven't get the public release yet, beta was released only a week after I purchased my Nokia 8)

Your question still needs to be answered by moderators :)


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Moderator

Hi Jeroom & Naufrago!


Yes, Treble is part of Android Oreo 8.0 and will be included in Nokia 8. 


Have a great day! 

Anna (Moderator) 


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Hi Anna,


Support for project Treble was/is not enabled in the Nokia 8 beta. Just to be sure, does your answer implicate that HMD/Nokia will specifically be adding support for the final version of Oreo, as Oreo can also be rolled out without Treble support?


Have a great day!


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Project Treble is not enabled in the Oreo Beta to the best of my knowledge, but from what Anna has said I take that as meaning it will be enabled in the official release. This for me is great news as it makes updates a lot easier to push.

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After further reading on available resources, I realized that my own comments seemed little bit inaccurate to me. I've just run a test (piece of code on termux) on my nokia 8 w/oreo beta which shows it does not support project treble. After what Anna said about final release, I became more and more curious :)

I am downloading the official one right now :-)


Would someone with the right knowledge, be kind and check if project treble is activated when they have installed the official version.


Treble is not in this official 8 oreo update sadly


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Hi Henhoy, Just updated to public release. Regret, it is still not activated. [Checked my TA-1012 using terminal app with 'getprop ro.treble.enabled' command, which returned 'false'.]

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Thanks for checking it out.
Treble is not enabled in Oreo final build. It was earlier mentioned that treble will be there in Oreo build. Are we going to receive another OTA later that will enable treble or there will be no treble support at all? I request moderators to clarify the situation as Anna's comment confirming treble is all over the Internet and it is creating confusion. Treble support is pretty crucial for this device, so we all would love to have it included. Thanks.

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Moderator

There's been a lot of discussion around Treble and we wanted to clarify the situation. We're aware our previous message might have been a little unclear and we're sorry for any misunderstanding.

 

Nokia 8 was launched with Android 7.0 Nougat™ however we recently upgraded this device to Android 8.0 Oreo™. Unfortunately Google only supports Project Treble on phones launching on Android 8.0 Oreo™, not phones upgrading to their software.

 

HMD is fully committed to implementing Project Treble on all new Android Oreo products in the near future and we apologise for any disappointment this may cause.



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While I appreciate your reply Anna, what you say is not entirely true. Google does support enabling Project Treble on phones that have been upgraded from Android 7.0 Nougat to Android 8.0 Oreo.

Both the Essential PH-1 and Huawei's Mate 9 and Honor 8 Pro have received support for Project Treble along with an update to Android 8.0 Oreo.

Google doesn't even allow devices launching with Android 8.0 Oreo to not support Project Treble, so that's not much of a commitment. Commitment would be to add support to HMD's existing devices.



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